[Omaha Rocks]

Interesting. Thanks.

It's odd though. Their website really doesn't say much of anything.

I also wonder if Ben has any formal theological training and/or education.

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

Interesting. Thanks.

It's odd though. Their website really doesn't say much of anything.

I also wonder if Ben has any formal theological training and/or education.

he is a NCC aka Nebraska Christian College grad


Nebraska Christian College is sorta like Grace University

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

Interesting. Thanks.

It's odd though. Their website really doesn't say much of anything.

I also wonder if Ben has any formal theological training and/or education.

a lot of the newer churches in Omaha area

are somewhat vague on their belief statement and doctrine

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

a lot of the newer churches in Omaha area

are somewhat vague on their belief statement and doctrine

Yeah, that's interesting. It's almost as though they want desperately to keep people from knowing what "kind" of church they are - as if they think that once people get in the door they'll stay.

I guess I tend to be more up-front about things. I'm a concrete-sequential kind of person, and want to know what I'm dealing with before I sign on to anything. Be honest and straightforward.

[billiefan2000]

I would also recomend avoiding:



Journey Church Gretna, Nebraska


which is Journey Church of Gretna Nebraska


they are supporters of new-ager Richard Foster (see suggested books part of their site)




Uncommon Church of Omaha Nebraska (where

is a WOF church aka a prosperity gospel church and



Consulate of God | Our Pastor

quote:



Dala Alphonso was ordained into ministry in 2002 at the World Harvest Church Ministerial Fellowship, Columbus, OH where he is still in good standing.




World Harvest Church is BTW Rod Parsley's church

and it seems according to Uncommon Church in Omaha Nebraska website


it is a very WOF type of church

like Rod Parsley's

based on the sermons section of the site








videos that are A call to repentance to all who are ensnared by the teaching of the greed/prosperity gospel.














BTW: Jubilee Church of Omaha Nebraska http://www.jubileeomaha.com/ at 95th and Fort where Dale Marples is pastor promotes

the WOF aka prosperity gospel stuff too.





Flatland Church of Omaha nebraska (near 144th and Maple? I would use caution



about

has it's 2 pastors there listed as:


Pastor, Life Coach



a lot of the seeker-driven pastors out there call themselves life coaches



any church who's pastor calls themself a life-coach I would be very wary of considering that title is used by seeker-driven pastors across the country

[drummer1965usa]

I went to Shadow Lake's 10:45 service yesterday. Wasn't impresssed at all. Seems to be a "rock and roll" church, and it reminded me a lot of Brookside.

I hate to say it, but I've bounced around churches in Omaha just becase I was having difficulty finding one that seemed to have its head screwed on straight. I was at Christ Community for several years until Mark Ashton waltzed into town, decided to clean house (not by getting rid of staff, but by completely shaking up the way that it approached Sunday morning adult Bible studies) and become prioritized with re-making CCC into the image of Willow Creek rather than into the image of Jesus Christ. After Ashton and his cohorts axed the singles ministry that I had been a part of, I went over to Trinity and settled in for what I thought was going to be the long haul -- even weathering the stormy in-fighting that drained 1/3 of the membership in fall of '07. But then I found out about their support of Todd Bentley, Mike Bickle, the whole IHOP thing, and it was off to find another church YET AGAIN.

I can gladly say that, for most of this year, I've been attending Evangelical Bible Chrurch (on 78th & Fort), and it, along with Omaha Bible Church, seems to be a place that is VERY sound theologically. I only went to Shadow Lake yesterday because of its close proximity to where I live, but I am pretty sure now that I'll be staying at EBC for a good long while.

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by billiefan2000

has it's 2 pastors there listed as:
Pastor, Life Coach

So it's not called a church, but "Flatland Group." And they don't have pastors, they have "Life Coaches."

Weird.

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by drummer1965usa

I went to Shadow Lake's 10:45 service yesterday. Wasn't impresssed at all. Seems to be a "rock and roll" church, and it reminded me a lot of Brookside.

I hate to say it, but I've bounced around churches in Omaha just becase I was having difficulty finding one that seemed to have its head screwed on straight. I was at Christ Community for several years until Mark Ashton waltzed into town, decided to clean house (not by getting rid of staff, but by completely shaking up the way that it approached Sunday morning adult Bible studies) and become prioritized with re-making CCC into the image of Willow Creek rather than into the image of Jesus Christ. After Ashton and his cohorts axed the singles ministry that I had been a part of, I went over to Trinity and settled in for what I thought was going to be the long haul -- even weathering the stormy in-fighting that drained 1/3 of the membership in fall of '07. But then I found out about their support of Todd Bentley, Mike Bickle, the whole IHOP thing, and it was off to find another church YET AGAIN.

I can gladly say that, for most of this year, I've been attending Evangelical Bible Chrurch (on 78th & Fort), and it, along with Omaha Bible Church, seems to be a place that is VERY sound theologically. I only went to Shadow Lake yesterday because of its close proximity to where I live, but I am pretty sure now that I'll be staying at EBC for a good long while.

The Willow Creek churches here in Omaha and all over the usa tend to try and be copies of the Bill Hybels Seeker-driven model

discernment and compromise of truth is known to be rampant in some WCA churches.



that is why Rob Bell and Todd Bentley and Dallas Willard and other false teachersare promoted in some.



BTW: here is the list of area WCA churches (some may not be surprised who is on it)



Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church of LaVista Nebraska

Bellevue Christian Center of Bellevue Nebraska

Brookside Church of Omaha Nebraska


Calvary Christian Church of Bellevue Nebraska


Christ Community Church of Omaha Nebraska


Covenant Presbyterian Church of Omaha Nebraska

Divine Shepherd Lutheran Church of Omaha Nebraska


Eagles Nest Worship Center of Omaha Nebraska

Faith Westwood United Methodist Church of Omaha Nebraska

(Faith Westwood UMC btw is where Water's Edge Church where Craig Finnestad is pastor got created from



First Covenant Church of Omaha Nebraska


King of Kings Lutheran Church of Omaha Nebraska


Kingsway Christian Church of Omaha Nebraska

Lutheran Church of the Master of Omaha Nebraska

New Life Baptist Church of Bellevue Nebraska

Salem Baptist Church of Omaha Nebraska

Shadow Lake Community Church of Papillion Nebraska

St. Paul's Lutheran Church of Omaha Nebraska at 13271 Millard Avenue in the Millard area



Thanksgiving Lutheran Church of Bellevue Nebraska

Trinity Church of Omaha Nebraska

Westside Church of Omaha Nebraska

Westwood Community Church of Omaha Nebraska


are all listed at:

Willow Creek Association - Find A Church

as WCA churches

as is

First Christian Church of Council Bluffs Iowa


Willow Creek Association - Find A Church

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by drummer1965usa

I can gladly say that, for most of this year, I've been attending Evangelical Bible Chrurch (on 78th & Fort), and it, along with Omaha Bible Church, seems to be a place that is VERY sound theologically. I only went to Shadow Lake yesterday because of its close proximity to where I live, but I am pretty sure now that I'll be staying at EBC for a good long while.

EBC is a good church

been there a couple of times.

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

So it's not called a church, but "Flatland Group." And they don't have pastors, they have "Life Coaches."

Weird.

I know it's weird.


and to think

Flatland Church of Omaha nebraska used to be

Grace Community Church of Omaha Nebraska


i guess you see what happens when you toy with being

like Mark Beeson in Indiana or Perry Noble in South carolina

or Bill Hybels in Chicago



you turn into a seeker-driven church nightmare





Real Preachers of Genius: Seeker-Sensitive Mega Church Guy (a parody video that could sadly describe some Omaha area pastors