[jessep28]

I think there is a distinction between Willow Creek Association and Willow Creek Churches. From my research, it seems to be just a cross denominational evangelism program, not a church.

I say this because the LCMS Lutheran church I have been a member of for years is apparently a member of WCA but I have never heard of Bentley or anybody associated with Willow Creek Church.

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by jessep28

I think there is a distinction between Willow Creek Association and Willow Creek Churches. From my research, it seems to be just a cross denominational evangelism program, not a church.

I say this because the LCMS Lutheran church I have been a member of for years is apparently a member of WCA but I have never heard of Bentley or anybody associated with Willow Creek Church.

Yeah, there must be some distinction. Missouri Synod churches certainly are not on the same page - doctrinally or theologically - with Willow Creek Church.

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by jessep28

I think there is a distinction between Willow Creek Association and Willow Creek Churches. From my research, it seems to be just a cross denominational evangelism program, not a church.

I say this because the LCMS Lutheran church I have been a member of for years is apparently a member of WCA but I have never heard of Bentley or anybody associated with Willow Creek Church.

I never said any LCMS church except Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church has promoted folks like Jay West (who has similar teachings to Bentley




Mr. West is closely associated with the website OpenHeaven.com

(a website that promotes false prophets) (i.e. a Elijah's list or Extreme Prophetic wannabee website




I have never heard BSLC distance themselves from the Bentley 's or West type of false teachings

in fact BSLC has so-called healing seminar's from West every so often

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

Yeah, there must be some distinction. Missouri Synod churches certainly are not on the same page - doctrinally or theologically - with Willow Creek Church.

true.



only 3 LCMS churches in Omaha are part of the LCMS


(Beautiful Savior in LaVista

and King of Kings on I street and Divine Shepard in Millard area of Omaha






Willow Creek Association churches

Willow Creek Association - Find A Church


are part of Willow Creek church and Bill Hybels




also a lot of the false teachers or questionable folks out there such as John Ortberg and John Maxwell


and Brian McLaren and Rob Bell and Erwin McManus


and the blasphemous the Shack book Paul Young Interview about The Shack with Emergent Village on Vimeo







are promoted by most WCA churches here in the Omaha area and I dont think that is a coincidence anymore.


I could be wrong but a lot of WCA churches here promoting a lot of known false teachers is troubling to say the least.





BTW, if you are a WCA church that isnt into Contemplative Prayer



or the shack book (see review of book at)

The Shack is NOT a Christian Novel, but Simply More New Age Heresy - LivePrayer's Daily Devotional


or into Brian McLaren




and Rob Bell's teachings









than your church's leaders need to speak out cause most WCA churches in the Omaha area are.


and not just the WCA churches, but all Churches in Omaha area sooner or later are going to have to say something about

what Bell and McLaren and other emergents/contemplative promoters are promoting





VIDEO: the "New Face of Mystical Spirituality" series - Contemplative Prayer.


(a must watch video on what some of the lies Brian McLaren and others like him are really promoting and how some WCA churches in Omaha are leading people astray by supporting the teaching of Contemplative Prayer)


ALSO: if you dont believe what is being said in the videos. do research on what is said and let me know if Yungen made something up.










to those in Omaha WCA churches who dont believe that


Rob Bell and Brian mcLaren and Doug Pagitt and John Maxwell and John Ortberg and Dallas Willard and Brennan Manning and Dallas Willard

are false teachers




do some research on them and use discernment.




In fact use Discernment on me too cause I am not perfect


and I could be promoting a false teaching or could be lying to you

and need to be called out on it.

[jessep28]

I visited BSLC for Good Friday this year as a matter of convenience and do agree that there is something wacky going on there.

On another note, I've been going to Divine Shepherd for years and have never once heard of any of these concepts/doctrine that the WCA teaches. Going through Divine Shepherd's programs though, DS does seem to buy bible study programs from Willow Creek. Maybe that's how they popped up on WCA's "church list."

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by jessep28

I visited BSLC for Good Friday this year as a matter of convenience and do agree that there is something wacky going on there.

On another note, I've been going to Divine Shepherd for years and have never once heard of any of these concepts/doctrine that the WCA teaches. Going through Divine Shepherd's programs though, DS does seem to buy bible study programs from Willow Creek. Maybe that's how they popped up on WCA's "church list."

I'm not familiar with most of the Willow Creek teaching materials. But I'm going to guess that some of them are probably pretty solid.

[Teeitup1111]

A church I would strongly recommend, I don't know if it has been mentioned, is Omaha Bible Church. This is by far IMO the most Christ centered, Cross of Christ centered, sola Scriptura church in Omaha that I have found. The preaching is expositional, (going through the Book of Romans right now). Very similar to what John MaCarthur does at his church if you are familiar with him.

The doctrine at OBC is calvinistic or reformed, that looks back to 2000 years of Christian church history to see how they interpreted Scripture. Also, looks at the people who were mightely used of God. (C.H. Spurgeon for example)

The big thing that seperates OBC from other churches in Omaha IMO, is the fact that OBC emphasizes the gospel of Jesus Christ. (I Cor. 15:1-4)

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Teeitup1111

A church I would strongly recommend, I don't know if it has been mentioned, is Omaha Bible Church. This is by far IMO the most Christ centered, Cross of Christ centered, sola Scriptura church in Omaha that I have found. The preaching is expositional, (going through the Book of Romans right now). Very similar to what John MaCarthur does at his church if you are familiar with him.

The doctrine at OBC is calvinistic or reformed, that looks back to 2000 years of Christian church history to see how they interpreted Scripture. Also, looks at the people who were mightely used of God. (C.H. Spurgeon for example)

The big thing that seperates OBC from other churches in Omaha IMO, is the fact that OBC emphasizes the gospel of Jesus Christ. (I Cor. 15:1-4)

OBC I would say is a good church


been there once and do listen to their radio show on KCRO

KCRO-AM - Omaha, NE - Life Changing Christian Radio broadcasts, Programs, Ministries and stations - Listen Online to Christian Teaching and Talk


sometimes on saturdays

[billiefan2000]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

I'm not familiar with most of the Willow Creek teaching materials. But I'm going to guess that some of them are probably pretty solid.

I would use HEAVY discernment when it comes to Willow Creek teaching materials


wca promotes some good sound folks BUT:


Willow Creek Association





says that Willow Creek churches should use books and materials by

Rob Bell and Erwin McManus and John Ortberg

(all of whom promote contemplative spirtuality



Lighthouse Trails Research Project - Exposing Contemplative Spirituality


has info on Ortberg


and





has info on some of what Rob Bell believes and is promoting and teaching



Erwin McManus sermon reviews from FFTf radio show.


anyone notice anything odd about McManus teachings



http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2...-are-ugly.html


http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2...ilderness.html






to any Omaha area WCA church:



start using discernment and do research on Bell and Ortberg. They are both leading people astray.

[dennismpat]

The Calvary Chapel churches teach the Bible verse by verse. I attend one here in California, but according to the CC website, there's one in Bellevue:

Calvary Chapel Omaha

There's also another one in West Omaha that meets at Millard North High School:

Calvary Chapel West Omaha

Please note, I've never been to either of these churches. I have friends who live in Omaha but they attend Westside Church, which I understand is a rather large church.

Hope this helps!