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Old 11-24-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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Omaha.com - The Omaha World-Herald: Metro/Region - Injured man to sue off-duty cop
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:35 PM
 
Location: West Omaha
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Well, who knows exactly what the facts are but if the "victim's" facts are true then the cop deserves to be charged and sued. Of course the "victim" was in the wrong for nearly the entire night (e.g., causing fights, vandalism, and etc.) but to shoot him for that is an unbelievable over kill. Tazer him, yes. Shoot him, no.

Plus, and again this is based on the shooting victim's facts, he was getting into his car and leaving. And apparently one of the cop's stray bullets lodged in an adjacent apparent complex.

I'm usually all for tough police action but this was really really stupid and really really dangerous.

Now, if other facts come out to support the cop's actions, like he thought he saw the victim with a gun, then I'll completely reverse my stance. However, by all accounts thus far the cop was pretty out of line.

That doesn't mean the "victim" shouldn't be sued and punished for his actions. However, the cop should also face the consequences of his wrongful actions.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:32 PM
 
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Well, who knows exactly what the facts are but if the "victim's" facts are true then the cop deserves to be charged and sued. Of course the "victim" was in the wrong for nearly the entire night (e.g., causing fights, vandalism, and etc.) but to shoot him for that is an unbelievable over kill. Tazer him, yes. Shoot him, no.

Plus, and again this is based on the shooting victim's facts, he was getting into his car and leaving. And apparently one of the cop's stray bullets lodged in an adjacent apparent complex.

I'm usually all for tough police action but this was really really stupid and really really dangerous.

Now, if other facts come out to support the cop's actions, like he thought he saw the victim with a gun, then I'll completely reverse my stance. However, by all accounts thus far the cop was pretty out of line.

That doesn't mean the "victim" shouldn't be sued and punished for his actions. However, the cop should also face the consequences of his wrongful actions.
I agree with you. If the officer had reasonable evidence to think the 'criminal' had a gun, and he thought the sound of breaking glass was the result of a gunshot, then there should be no problem.

Otherwise it was blatantly wreckless.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Way too early to start speculating.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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Way too early to start speculating.
But not too early for a high-profile defense attorney to start grandstanding for the media! JMD makes me laugh...
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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But not too early for a high-profile defense attorney to start grandstanding for the media! JMD makes me laugh...


dont even get me started on James Martin Davis or that Gallup guy.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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He won't be charged....maybe found reckless. Cops usually only get busted if it's on film. I guarantee he won't lose his job.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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But not too early for a high-profile defense attorney to start grandstanding for the media! JMD makes me laugh...
Just saw a newscast this evening, and guess which Bozo was grandstanding with the "victim" outside the bar?

JMD smells big money here, and he's looking at a sizable cut. You know he's going after this one like a dung beetle on a turd.
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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update:

Brothers Revisit Scene Where Officer Shot At Them
Armando Butler's Attorney Says City Should Pay

Brothers Revisit Scene Where Officer Shot At Them - Omaha News Story - KETV Omaha (http://www.ketv.com/news/21777115/detail.html - broken link)
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Omaha Nebraska and dreamland when I am sleeping
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Neighbors Demand Bar's License Be Revoked - Omaha News Story - KETV Omaha (http://www.ketv.com/news/21885094/detail.html - broken link)
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