Why are there so few roads between Orange and Riverside counties (Anaheim: credit, house)

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by ElevateMeLater

Growing up in OC, I never understood why everyone there has an aversion to public transit. When the topic of traffic comes up, no one ever talks about improving bus service or constructing mass transit lines. A light rail system connecting the Newport Beach Pier to the Brea Mall with stops at the OC Fairgrounds, SCP, Santa Ana Depot, The Block, Angel Stadium/Honda Center, and CSU Fullerton would be amazing.

Tell me about it. As someone who spent years using BART in NorCal, I'd welcome something like that system down here in OC.

[wrcousert]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Easier commuting from Riverside County might actually help the real estate market in that area.

An express bus line to OC would take hundreds of cars off the 215 and 91 every day.

[wrcousert]

Originally Posted by BillyBobJoeBobWilly

Well, another thought is commuting by Motorcycle. Since bikes can legally split lanes and drive in Car pool lanes, is that a viable alternative to sitting in traffic?

Other than putting your life in your hands that is.

I'm thinking about getting a Vespa.

[wrcousert]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Tell me about it. As someone who spent years using BART in NorCal, I'd welcome something like that system down here in OC.

BART would be great, if we could afford it. I'd settle for a monorail.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by wrcousert

Not even close. When was the last time you rode a bus?

Its been a few years but I drive around OC all day and see who's sitting at the bus stops.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

Have you seen who's on them? Its mostly the illegals who haven't saved up enough for a car yet.

Okay, so?

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Okay, so?

Its publicly subsidized transportation of last resort. Anyone who can afford to, doesn't take the bus. Why should I?

[Mr. Fantastic]

I don't understand your point. You don't want to take the bus because it's beneath you?

[SoCalCroozer]

Here's a thought maybe it's important to preserve the last few wilderness areas in south orange county???????????? DuH! Get a life........not everything starts and stops with your frustration getting to and from Orange County. Cleveland National Forest is a beautiful place and I'd hate to see it crisscrossed with a few more highways. Maybe OC doesn't want it to be easy for Riverside residents to move in and out of OC. Ever think about that?

The last grizzly bear was killed in Cleveland National Forest (Holy Jim area) in 1908. It's pretty ****ing cool to think that huge grizzly bears used to roam that part of SoCal. There are enough houses, enough people, enough cars already. Let's keep some places wild for a change. Environmentalists.....yeah let's label everyone an "environmentalist" because they want to preserve the last tracts of wilderness for their future generations to enjoy. Idiots!

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

I don't understand your point. You don't want to take the bus because it's beneath you?

That and buses are slower and less direct then driving myself.