Do you consider Lake Forest a "Small Town"? (San Diego: find a job, high school)

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

That would Be ETR & Toledo Way, and the year would be ~1969.

Here's what it looks like today

el toro, ca - Google Maps

or try el toro, ca - Google Maps

[Fontucky]

Because:
A. I was there
B. I remember the lay of the land before all that new stuff was added.

I'm fairly certain you can do the same thing with parts of the SFV.

[robbybee]

Originally Posted by jackie100

i find "open land" depressing;

que dicen?!

[jackie100]

Originally Posted by robbybee

que dicen?!

I like Hollywood and Los Angels. Lake Forest looks way better now than it did when it was just open land. It used to look like foresaken and barren land; even more depressing than Kansas or Minnesota (I would die if I lived there). At least now it looks civilized, although still depressingly suburban.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by jackie100

It would be less depressing if they added in some skyscrapers and tall buildings/bright lights like Hollywood and LA. I find "open land" depressing; I like urban cities like LA (my dream place to live).

I like the fact that you are paying local taxes in our communtiy but why don't you move to LA and all the skyscrapers and bright lights and action?

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by robbybee

I remember as a kid in the early 60's, driving with my folks to visit my cousins in San Diego. We saw lots of virgin natural hills and fabulous seascapes as we headed south from Anaheim on the 5. Once we left Santa Ana it was open land all the way to San Clemente and then open land all the way to the San Diego County line. It was beautiful!

Well you wouldn't have been on the 5 all the way as the stretch a few miles South of Charles pics wasn't completed until the late 60s or maybe 1970.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

Because:
A. I was there
B. I remember the lay of the land before all that new stuff was added.

A. I was there too
B. I was going to guess you read the developer's sign since you have a pretty good memory for that sort of thing.

[robbybee]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

Well you wouldn't have been on the 5 all the way as the stretch a few miles South of Charles pics wasn't completed until the late 60s or maybe 1970.

I believe that the route was still called Interstate 5 at that time but you are right, the freeway was not completed until later.

It's like Route 91. The highway (which is currently La Palma Ave) went from OC to Riverside and was also the only way to get from OC to the mountain towns of Crestline, Big Bear, Lake Arrowhead, etc, and it was called Route 91 before the freeway was built.

Progress, I guess...

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

I was going to guess you read the developer's sign since you have a pretty good memory for that sort of thing.

Naw, I knew that was Toledo Way even before I noticed the developer's sign was readable. There are simply too many tells in the land forms. (I had to copy the pic to my HDD and blow it up a few times before my ancient eyes could read it)

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

Well you wouldn't have been on the 5 all the way as the stretch a few miles South of Charles pics wasn't completed until the late 60s or maybe 1970.

The freeway stopped at the OC/SD County line in 1961 or 1962*. From that point on until some place in Oceanside, one had to transition to old Route 101, aka "Slaughter Alley". That stretch of road still exists as the main access road within the State Park.

*Next time you're out here, look at the Cal Trans ID numbers stenciled on the overcrossings in San Clemente. The first two numbers are the year of completion. The Reeve's Ranch cattle overcrossing (now the Vista Hermosa oc) once sported a 58 or 59 ID number. Can't remember which now... lost to the fog of time.