Irvine and Santa Ana are dueling safest cities in America (Fresno: low income, crime rates)
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Another aspect often overlooked is the large immigrant population, legal and illegal.
Often times in these areas there is alot of crimes not reported due to cultural differences( mistrust of police in their countries of origin, etc..) legal status ( not wanting to get deported).
This hits the nail right on the head. Raw numbers only tell part of the story. Any city with a large illegal alien population has a much higher crime rate than the official numbers indicate. Santa Ana is a very dangerous place, and any person that disputes this needs a crash course in street smarts. Do not feel safe after dark in any part of Santa Ana, and only feel safe in a few parts during the day, and my street smarts are pretty good, not overly cautious or afraid, but on constant alert.
You're off topic. This has nothing to do with Safety in Santa Ana.
So you say your piece then tell me, I'm off topic. That's rich.
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You're calling for a land that is 100% white?
I don't recall calling for that. I'm calling for a halt to immigration. Did you know that the United States was over 90% European until 1965?
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Do you know the definition of genocide? I don't see mass killings in any predominantly Caucasian country. You are brainwashed dude. Get on with your life please, this doesn't affect ANYONE.
Article 2 of United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[3]
Genocide doesn't have to involve machetes.
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You know who was the last person to try that? Hitler. What happened to him? this forum is about cities, take you're amazingly naive ideas to StormFront.
What's Stormfront? I don't understand the reference to Hitler. All I know is I had to flee Anaheim at great expense so that my children could be safe. I don't know where I'm going to go once South Orange Country gets ruined too. And THAT'S on topic. I'm just not afraid to admit the truth about why beautiful Orange county is turning into a third world country.
You know who was the last person to try that? Hitler. What happened to him? .
I failed to see anything that MyVan posted that Hitler did. Urban Planner, If you are going to make naive, abrasive references to Hitler, please do us a favor and stay off the forum. You add nothing to the conversation by equating someone with Hitler. It is quite obvious you know nothing of the horror that "man" inflicted on the world
I don't mean to be unkind but Europeans immigrating into this country have a different effect than non-Europeans.
I cried when I first realized this because I'd been taught all my life that we are all the same, but after having lived in non-White neighborhoods, I realized that it just isn't true.
It goes without saying that there are good and bad in every race but if people are honest with themselves, they realize that in general "good neighborhoods" (clean, safe) are predominantly White and "bad neighborhoods" (dirty, crime-ridden) are predominantly not.
Again, I don't mean to offend but this has been my observation.
I don't mean to be unkind but Europeans immigrating into this country have a different effect than non-Europeans.
I cried when I first realized this because I'd been taught all my life that we are all the same, but after having lived in non-White neighborhoods, I realized that it just isn't true.
It goes without saying that there are good and bad in every race but if people are honest with themselves, they realize that in general "good neighborhoods" (clean, safe) are predominantly White and "bad neighborhoods" (dirty, crime-ridden) are predominantly not.
Again, I don't mean to offend but this has been my observation.
Within the last 30 years, what large-scale immigration have we had from a European country? Cite examples of neighborhoods these communities have formed please.
"In general", isn't without its exceptions. How do you feel about cities/areas such as Diamond Bar, View Park-Windsor Hills, and Whittier? All have above average incomes & home prices, below average crime, and are non-white dominated communities. Irvine isn't even more than 50% white.
The primary factor in determining whether an area is "good" or not is class. Surely Irvine isn't looked upon as good neighborhood simply because of its "whiteness". Huntington Beach, San Juan Capistrano, Brea, Costa Mesa, Fountain Valley, and Orange are all whiter than Irvine, and in general, Irvine is held up as a generally "better community" than any of those.
I've never had an issue in Santa Ana but growing up I only had 2 run-ins where I had to fight for my life. One was in Laguna hills where white pride guys beat and kicked me for 10 mins. The second was at the spectrum in irvine with my wife, white pride guys again. 10 years apart. I grew up in Mission Viejo, lived in West lake village, Long Beach, Seattle, Bellevue, Garden grove. Never Had problems with any one. It's funny when they say these city's are safe. What ethnic group are they saying is safe. I'm .5 English .5 Parsi.
Within the last 30 years, what large-scale immigration have we had from a European country? Cite examples of neighborhoods these communities have formed please.
First of all, why "the last 30 years"? Sorry, you don't get to cherry pick the years to prove your point. I don't have time to give you a history lesson but it's evident to anyone who is honest, the vast number beautiful clean, low crime towns and cities that were built by people of European descent. This country was a shining city upon a hill. That's why once the immigration quotas were done away with in 1965 (LIMITING the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already living in the United States in 1890.) people came here in DROVES. If they were such great people, they would have made their own countries great. They came to a country that was already developed...in ways that most of their countries never had been. And it was developed by European-Americans.
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"In general", isn't without its exceptions.
Really Mr. Aguilar? Thanks for stating the obvious. Here's another thought for you. The exceptions don't make the rule.
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Huntington Beach, San Juan Capistrano, Brea, Costa Mesa, Fountain Valley, and Orange are all whiter than Irvine
That's highly doubtful since, as you stated in this forum on January 4th that In Orange County, 49.6% of Hispanics claim to be "white". The census numbers get totally skewed as a result of this.
You aren't getting anywhere with your argument. People of European descent have been trying to get away from non-whites for a long time. It's called White flight.
Like I said, I'm not trying to be mean. I associate with and like all different types of people on a daily basis. I have met some exceptional people of color. But we aren't talking about exceptions here.
Oh Urban Planner, thanks for the tip about Stormfront.org. It's kind of a radical website yet there are also some interesting articles posted there. I'm going to be reading for a while.
That's highly doubtful since, as you stated in this forum on January 4th that In Orange County, 49.6% of Hispanics claim to be "white".
That's true. The cities I listed have a higher White non-Hispanic population than Irvine.
From Census 2010 (percents White non-Hispanic):
Irvine: 45.1%
Orange: 46.8%
Fountain Valley: 49.2%
Costa Mesa: 51.8%
Brea: 52.7%
San Juan Capistrano: 55.8%
Huntington Beach: 67.2%
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Originally Posted by MyVan
You aren't getting anywhere with your argument. People of European descent have been trying to get away from non-whites for a long time. It's called White flight.
Feel free to fly. Sadly, the cycle will likely continue to repeat itself.
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