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Old 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM
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It really depends on your perspective. We know the area and tend to think of Orange County as different than LA. To someone from another region, LA/OC/IE and to some extent SD are just one big blob called SoCal. County lines don't really determine what's a suburb and what's not. Its really more sphere of influence and OC/IE are definitely in LA's orbit.
Correct. Just like San Francisco is it's own county, it has suburbs in other counties. Same thing with New York and Chicago. Suburbs cross county lines. The OC/IE we see today exists because of the development of the city of Los Angeles.

It does depend on your perspective. But even Bay Area natives call the whole area LA, which spans LA, OC, and IE. So you can imagine what out of state folks and people from around the world would think.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:06 PM
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I'd say no. Most people don't work in LA and that's how I would define a suburb (employment center).
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:09 PM
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Orange and Ventura Counties ARE to some degree suburbs of LA. They do have their own county seats and large commerce areas, Orange County more than Ventura and many never step foot in LA County for months. But having said that, many do work in LA and live in OC or VC. Much of the commerce enjoyed by OC is made possible and relied upon by it's proximity to LA, moreso with VC.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:11 PM
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All of Southern California is not completely independent of Los angeles. Suppose people from Europe or Japan have to travel to San Diego on business, where they would be flying Air France or Air Japan. Because of some special treaty, San Diego Interntional Airport cannot c host those airlines. There is only one airport in Southern California that can carry all these foreign airlines, so if Eupean or Japanese Businessmen have business meeting in San Diego, their planes would be landing at LAX. So not even San Diego is completely independent. It is far more independent in Anaheim only because LA's TV Stations are to far out of range for San Diego, so San Diego has their own TV Stations. For Anaheim/Orange County, the John Wayne Airport also can't carry those airlines, so any Europeans who want to visit Disneyland willl also be landing at LAX, not JWA,
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:19 PM
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Orange and Ventura Counties ARE to some degree suburbs of LA. They do have their own county seats and large commerce areas, Orange County more than Ventura and many never step foot in LA County for months. But having said that, many do work in LA and live in OC or VC. Much of the commerce enjoyed by OC is made possible and relied upon by it's proximity to LA, moreso with VC.
Except for Santa Ana, Anaheim, and Irvine, the rest of Orange County is a suburb of Los Angeles.

Central Cities (non suburbs) of The Southland include

Los Angeles - Long Beach - Glendale (LA Metro Division)
Santa Ana - Anaheim - Irvine (OC Metro Division)
Riverside - San Bernardino - Ontario (Inland Empire MSA)
Oxnard - Thousand Oaks - Ventura (Ventura County MSA)

All the cities and towns in the Counties of LA, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, and Ventura ARE suburbs of Los Angeles, except for these twelve. It's pretty much up to OMB.
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Old 02-23-2009, 09:31 PM
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I would not say Anaheim is directly a suburb of Los Angeles, but rather under the umbrella of a "sphere of influence of Los Angeles" and it IS a part of the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area. Its not like Anaheim doesn't have its own little economy where people MUST commute to L.A. Los Angeles is the dominant force in the region and the hub of the region though.

In many ways the Los Angeles and Orange County economies work together, with Los Angeles being important for industries like manufacturing, entertainment (movies/tv/news), and finance. Orange County has a lot of jobs in the IT industry, finance, and some medical companies. The two really work together and I would say Orange County wouldn't be the way it is today without Los Angeles.
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As I mentioned earlier, before 1955 when Disneyland opened, OC was all country.
So, if Disney had built his amusement park in Ventura County to get a location in between LA and SB rather than in between LA and SD, OC would've developed more slowly and would still have rural areas today (as Ventura County still has rural sections)?
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So, if Disney had built his amusement park in Ventura County to get a location in between LA and SB rather than in between LA and SD, OC would've developed more slowly and would still have rural areas today (as Ventura County still has rural sections)?
Probably.
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There are books written in the 1930's\ 1940's about how California looked. Orange county was citrus groves for miles & all kinds of farms & small towns. Sounds like heaven
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There are books written in the 1930's\ 1940's about how California looked. Orange county was citrus groves for miles & all kinds of farms & small towns. Sounds like heaven
I was just going to say that happ. Lets see what kind of fruit did they have growing in orange County?

I am in Ventura County and love the orchards and rows of strawberries and other things that are grown in Ventura county. Hope that our agriculture never ends in Ventura County. We love visiting Disneyland and did spend the Presidents Day weekend at the park. I can always drive there. At the same time I am glad that Walt chose that area of the State to build it. Would hate to have missed growing up in an area without agriculture.

I would like to add that those real housewifes of Orange County that I saw while we were in Aneheim looked nothing like the women on the show.
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