Good/Bad about living in Orange County (Santa Ana, Garden Grove: colleges, statistics)

[Texasturkey]

Originally Posted by antibes

LOL! Its so true...
The men in the OC are DREADFUL. And what's the deal with the ugly prison tatoos and them wanting a porn star for a partner all the time? These men are gross.
For years I've told my girlfriends to find a man out of state. Only now are they settled and in a good relationship - with a man out of state (!).

They can be from anywhere but here!

[antibes]

Originally Posted by twnxn

Closet racist? In what way? I would think you are the closet racist by exaggerating the Asian population numbers, in the tone, that seems negative. My point is if you want to talk about the racial breakdown in Orange County, then why not discuss all groups-Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. equally. How is that being a closet racist? I just find it interesting that you put so much emphasis on Asian population boom is brought up in the GOOD/BAD about living in Orange County (and really exaggerate the numbers).

I could not care less what you think.

Look here:

ASIAN POPULATION IS HUGE IN ORANGE COUNTY!!!!!! Its boomed in only a few years. How could it possibly be as low as the statistics claim?

Now, what do you say about that? And do I care?

[antibes]

Originally Posted by ndfmnlf

People should be treated and judged as individuals, not as members of a race. I could care less if Asians were 100% or 0% in the area. What I care about is the humans that live there are actually productive members of society, regardless of their color.

I'm glad you're comfortable living anywhere and see only the human in everyone, saint bernadette, you holier than other people.

A friend gave good pointers last week when he asked the same question about the sudden increase in asian population. He had relatives on visit and everyone asked why there was a sudden huge jump in the asian population, and should they take out additional car insurance? The conclusion was this:

Maybe you can explain to me/us what part of the human factor is responsible for my experiences in driving through Westminster, for example: I am ALWAYS close to an accident because some car suddenly pulls right in front of me from nowhere with barely a few feet difference, no blinkers, no warning, and why do I always discover these poor drivers are always asian?

And WHY does this common incident occur when this 'better' ethnic group that no one is allowed to mention by name here, shares the road: In heavy traffic the general rule is that every second car is given the right-away in ex, lane closing, to allow traffic to flow. But if you have a whole string of cars with asian drivers next to you, they refuse to follow this rule and traffic simply cannot flow and you get stuck in a gridlock. Asians are known to simply refuse to give right-away to anyone and only care to selfishly push their way through. Please explain this to me, saint bernadette, and why I barely ever go through the same experience with other ethnic groups? Can it be that we are all exactly the same? Or do we actually have something called cultural differences that at times can be a nuisance? Is cultural differences associated with color, or is it from habits? In my view it stems from habits, so color don't even have anything to do with any group, and in contrary to your strange claims.

So, again I wonder, WHY has the asian population boomed within a noticeably short time, and this being particularly visible around the malls in Huntington and Newport close to my house, and where I have the risk of having my car jammed into by someone who clearly don't know what the blinker of a car is used for?

Will we get better public transportation to solve this, or?

What's your expert advise, you better and holier person?

[ndfmnlf]

Please explain this to me, saint bernadette, and why I barely ever go through the same experience with other ethnic groups?

Are you saying Asians are culturally incapable of driving properly? Are you proposing Asians be ethnically cleansed from Orange County so you can drive without competition?

Maybe you can explain to me/us what part of the human factor is responsible for my experiences in driving through Westminster, for example: I am ALWAYS close to an accident because some car suddenly pulls right in front of me from nowhere with barely a few feet difference, no blinkers, no warning, and why do I always discover these poor drivers are always asian?

Ahh, the pitfalls of limited intelligence. Use your brain for a change. Listen, if you live in an area where there are lots of Asians, chances are that when you are in a car accident, the other driver in the mishap will be Asian. Live in an area where the whites are the predominant ethnic group, and chances are that in a car accident, the other driver will be white. Or live in an area where the majority of people are blacks, and chances are the opposing driver will be black. You made a fallacy of induction known as false generalization.

So, again I wonder, WHY has the asian population boomed within a noticeably short time, and this being particularly visible around the malls in Huntington and Newport close to my house, and where I have the risk of having my car jammed into by someone who clearly don't know what the blinker of a car is used for?

To make your rant credible, show us the statistics demonstrating how Asians grew from x to y over z period of time, and why this growth should be considered "abnormal". What is "normal" growth to you? Is there a law which says Asians should only be 5% of Orange County?

My hunch is Asians like to live in Orange County because it is a desirable place to live. Asians tend to be more affluent, better educated, and could afford to live in pricey Orange County. I get the sense that you are simply jealous of Asian success in Orange County. If you cannot stomach the sight of Asians, you are free to leave the area for places that are all white. Then in your next car accident, at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that it will be a white person who will run you over.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by ndfmnlf

Ahh, the pitfalls of limited intelligence. Use your brain for a change. Listen, if you live in an area where there are lots of Asians, chances are that when you are in a car accident, the other driver in the mishap will be Asian. Live in an area where the whites are the predominant ethnic group, and chances are that in a car accident, the other driver will be white. Or live in an area where the majority of people are blacks, and chances are the opposing driver will be black. You made a fallacy of induction known as false generalization. .

The part about driving in Westminster is where he has a point. People up there simply don't follow the rules of the road. You're far more likely to see people doing stupid, unpredictable crap there than you are in Huntington Beach or Irvine. Want to make a mid-block U turn in the middle of Brookhurst? No problem! Just slow down to 10 mph in the right lane and force your way through 6 lanes of traffic! I have Vietnamese friends and even they shake their heads at their parents' driving. The older generation just doesn't get simple California driving rules like yielding to pedestrians or using turn lanes. For some real fun, go to a supermarket parking lot in Westminster and hang out for a while. You'll get to see stupid crap like people going doing the parking aisle the wrong way (spots angled against them) and then spending 10 minutes trying to wiggle into a space while others try to force their way past them in both directions.

[ndfmnlf]

I have Vietnamese friends and even they shake their heads at their parents' driving. The older generation just doesn't get simple California driving rules like yielding to pedestrians or using turn lanes.

Well then, it's an age issue, not an ethnicity issue. And that might be a more valid complaint. Lots of old people drive who really have no business driving. Not meaning to be offensive to old people, but let's face it: there comes a point in one's life when one's reflexes, visual and hearing acuity, and mental alertness deteriorate such that driving anywhere becomes hazardous. This is true for people of all races. But that's not what this poster is claiming. He/she is claiming that it is the "Asianness" of these OC drivers that impair their ability to drive.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by ndfmnlf

Well then, it's an age issue, not an ethnicity issue. And that might be a more valid complaint. Lots of old people drive who really have no business driving. Not meaning to be offensive to old people, but let's face it: there comes a point in one's life when one's reflexes, visual and hearing acuity, and mental alertness deteriorate such that driving anywhere becomes hazardous. This is true for people of all races. But that's not what this poster is claiming. He/she is claiming that it is the "Asianness" of these OC drivers that impair their ability to drive.

I'm not talking about people so old they shouldn't be behind the wheel. And none of my white or Mexican friends have the same problem with their parents. If you don't think drivers in Westminster have a total disregard for the rules of the road, you haven't spent enough time there.

[ndfmnlf]

I'm not talking about people so old they shouldn't be behind the wheel. And none of my white or Mexican friends have the same problem with their parents. If you don't think drivers in Westminster have a total disregard for the rules of the road, you haven't spent enough time there.

But you're the one who brought up age as an explanation. I merely said that that may be valid. So now, it's not age after all, you say?

Again, the problem with false generalization. You see a concentration of one ethnic group in an area exhibiting a particular trait, you then extrapolate that it must be their ethinicity causing them to exhibit that trait.

I live in a predominantly white area. Pretty much 95% or more of the car accidents here involve white people. Based on your logic, white people must be careless drivers.

[twnxn]

Originally Posted by antibes

I could not care less what you think.

Look here:

ASIAN POPULATION IS HUGE IN ORANGE COUNTY!!!!!! Its boomed in only a few years. How could it possibly be as low as the statistics claim?

Now, what do you say about that? And do I care?

So what! What is your point? Yes, so OC has many Asians. Got a problem with that?

Okay, got news for you also... THE WHITE POPULATION IS STILL GREATER IN NUMBERS THAN THE ASIAN POPULATION IN ORANGE COUNTY!!!!!! What do you say to that?

If you don't care what I have to say, then why must you respond with false accusations and insults?

You totally contradict yourself when you shoot down what I write about your exaggerated claims of the Asian population and then you accuse me of not accepting other people's statements or people different from me? I have just as much a right to write my opinion here.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by ndfmnlf

But you're the one who brought up age as an explanation. I merely said that that may be valid. So now, it's not age after all, you say?

Again, the problem with false generalization. You see a concentration of one ethnic group in an area exhibiting a particular trait, you then extrapolate that it must be their ethinicity causing them to exhibit that trait.

I live in a predominantly white area. Pretty much 95% or more of the car accidents here involve white people. Based on your logic, white people must be careless drivers.

I'm talking about the 50-70 crowd that's been here for years, aren't senile, but still do stupid stuff behind the wheel. Those are the ones that make driving in Westminster an adventure.