Integrating from NY (Huntington Beach, Orange: private schools, live, beach)

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I am not sure I quite agree, however, I think it has many similarities to LI.

OC has plenty good bagels. I have found plenty.

There are a few places where you can get passable bagels (HB has two decent bagel shops)
But you just can't get the dough that makes for an exceptional bagel, hard roll or pizza crust.

and unless you are from NY (Hudson River Valley and south through Long Island), you don't know what I mean

[bowneline]

Here is my take on the pizza debate.

When people from NY say that their pizza is the best and the pizza in California (or OC) sucks, I believe what they are really saying is:

"In NYC, you can find a solid slice of pizza on practically every block, 90% of pizza in the city is above average, and in OC its very hard to find places that sell slices of pizza, and there is a lot of bad pizza."

But, I do not believe they are saying that you literally can't find good pizza in OC. Objectively speaking, there is a lot of good pizza in OC, even if its not everywhere. It's hard to believe someone eating Rances (Costa Mesa), and saying that its not as good or better than most slices of pizza in NYC. It's hard to believe that someone would eat at Roccos (San Clemente) or Tony's Little Italy (Placentia) and thinking that it's not at least on level to your average slice of NYC pizza.

I'm native to OC, but I've visited NYC 15+ times, and as a pizza lover I've probably had 50+ slices of pizza in the city in pretty much every borough (sorry SI, haven't made it there yet). And, I can say that I love that (it seems) that you are always a 5-10 minute walk away from a solid slice of pizza. I can't recall ever having a bad slice. But, it's not like your average slice of pizza in NYC is some new awaking and takes pizza to a whole new level.

But, at the same time, I recognize that its very hard to find a good pizza in OC (and very, very difficult to find a really good slice), and there is a lot of bad or below average pizza. I honestly don't understand why your average corner pizza spot in NYC can produce a really good pizza, but 50% of the pizza places in OC serve bad pizza. Really, it shouldn't be rocket science.

So, in conclusion, the pizza in NYC is much better than the pizza in OC. But, that's not because you can't find good pizza in OC. it's just that there is a whole lot of solid pizza in NYC, and in OC you have to search it out.

By the way, the exact same thing can be said about burritos/tacos in NYC versus LA/OC/SD. It's not like you can't find a good taco in NYC, its just that (unlike Southern California), you can't find a solid one on nearly every corner.

[Brother1]

Getting use to people might be of concern in the O.C. If you are use to friendly types that love to talk, communicate and listen. Forget it, most people don't talk to neighbors at all because they don't care about anything but their own people. I've been here 40+yrs and I'm sick of it. At retirement time we are bolting from this ever changing dead hole of to many people with a don't G A F attitude. Weather is why they are here. Homelessness has exploded in the last 10yrs. In the sanctuary city of Santa Ana they are living on city and county land right in downtown.

When you do move make sure you are less than 15min. from work, the freeway will waste your life away.

[sonik555]

Originally Posted by Brother1

Getting use to people might be of concern in the O.C. If you are use to friendly types that love to talk, communicate and listen. Forget it, most people don't talk to neighbors at all because they don't care about anything but their own people. I've been here 40+yrs and I'm sick of it. At retirement time we are bolting from this ever changing dead hole of to many people with a don't G A F attitude. Weather is why they are here. Homelessness has exploded in the last 10yrs. In the sanctuary city of Santa Ana they are living on city and county land right in downtown.

When you do move make sure you are less than 15min. from work, the freeway will waste your life away.

Are you serious, is this really the case? Rudeness, unfriendliness and anger are one of the main reasons I wanna get out of NY area (crappy weather being the main reason) . Please tell me it's not as bad as NY/ Northeast area.

[pacific2]

Originally Posted by sonik555

Are you serious, is this really the case? Rudeness, unfriendliness and anger are one of the main reasons I wanna get out of NY area (crappy weather being the main reason) . Please tell me it's not as bad as NY/ Northeast area.

No, not at all. I find people in South Orange County to be much friendlier than they are in Manhattan. NYC is far more competitive and "dog-eat-dog." Everyone, I knew in Manhattan when I lived there, was juggling multiple projects and rushing from one meeting to another;even during weekends and evenings. I knew a lot of people who just had to get their kids into the right preschools; the right private schools.....

Then, there's the nonstop whirlwind madness of NYC. I lived in a great neighborhood, but, as I traveled around the city, I saw and experienced things there that, individually, would give wimpy C-D fear-mongers a fatal heart attack.

Life in South OC is easy, not nearly perfect, but easy. I posted it before, but at least here in Aliso, over 90% of the people surveyed are happy with life in this city. Other South OC cities may not be as much into research, etc., but my hunch is that their residents probably have similar feelings about their respective communities.

Of course, there's also lot of competition here, but most South OCers seem to be less driven, and far more invested in balancing fun into their lives. Here, the outdoors, with the ocean, canyons and parks, are important.

There are a lot of transplants in South OC, and I'd guess that the majority moved here for the weather and opportunities for a less stressful lifestyle.

Ignore the cry babies who are afraid of their own shadow. If you notice, many of them seem to be perpetually angry. Jeez, is there any surprise that people don't speak to them, or want to be around them?

[sonik555]

Originally Posted by pacific2

No, not at all. I find people in South Orange County to be much friendlier than they are in Manhattan. NYC is far more competitive and "dog-eat-dog." Everyone, I knew in Manhattan when I lived there, was juggling multiple projects and rushing from one meeting to another;even during weekends and evenings. I knew a lot of people who just had to get their kids into the right preschools; the right private schools.....

Then, there's the nonstop whirlwind madness of NYC. I lived in a great neighborhood, but, as I traveled around the city, I saw and experienced things there that, individually, would give wimpy C-D fear-mongers a fatal heart attack.

Life in South OC is easy, not nearly perfect, but easy. I posted it before, but at least here in Aliso, over 90% of the people surveyed are happy with life in this city. Other South OC cities may not be as much into research, etc., but my hunch is that their residents probably have similar feelings about their respective communities.

Of course, there's also lot of competition here, but most South OCers seem to be less driven, and far more invested in balancing fun into their lives. Here, the outdoors, with the ocean, canyons and parks, are important.

There are a lot of transplants in South OC, and I'd guess that the majority moved here for the weather and opportunities for a less stressful lifestyle.

Ignore the cry babies who are afraid of their own shadow. If you notice, many of them seem to be perpetually angry. Jeez, is there any surprise that people don't speak to them, or want to be around them?

Thank you Sooo much for your response. This makes me feel much better.
Would I be able to write a direct message for to you? I tried however, there is no option for it.

[NOLA101]

OC doesn't feel similar to Long Island, at all. Have lived in both places. They're kind of polar opposites.

I moved from NYC to Orange County, and then back to NYC, and I integrated just fine. Had a great experience in CA.

I was fortunate to live in a very nice part of OC, though (Corona del Mar). If I lived somewhere more middle class, inland, honestly I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by NOLA101

OC doesn't feel similar to Long Island, at all. Have lived in both places. They're kind of polar opposites.

I moved from NYC to Orange County, and then back to NYC, and I integrated just fine. Had a great experience in CA.

I was fortunate to live in a very nice part of OC, though (Corona del Mar). If I lived somewhere more middle class, inland, honestly I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much.

I've lived in both places, plus the Hudson River Valley. In my opinion OC feels a lot like Suffolk County
Long Island has better beaches and harbors, but overall i prefer OC.

I lived in coastal/Boating communities on Long Island, and coastal Communities in OC and maybe that's why I feel the similarity.

The interior parts of both places can get a bit dicey (Selden, Commack / Stanton/Midway City
LI has guidos / OC has Bros (both are subclasses of DBags)

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by DinsdalePirahna

There are a few places where you can get passable bagels (HB has two decent bagel shops)
But you just can't get the dough that makes for an exceptional bagel, hard roll or pizza crust.

and unless you are from NY (Hudson River Valley and south through Long Island), you don't know what I mean

Actually, yes, I think I do know. I've spent a lot of time in NYC, not much on LI, admittedly.

Well it is harder to replicate the exact mineral content of water from NYC. Aside from bagels, I have even found a nice bialy here and there. I looked for knish and even found two places that had 'em!

Even calzones can be found that are decent. Had a nice one in San Clemente.

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Actually, yes, I think I do know. I've spent a lot of time in NYC, not much on LI, admittedly.

Well it is harder to replicate the exact mineral content of water from NYC. Aside from bagels, I have even found a nice bialy here and there. I looked for knish and even found two places that had 'em!

Even calzones can be found that are decent. Had a nice one in San Clemente.

Kings pizza in Huntington Beach has the best Calzones in OC, and they are super cheap!