Our new President Trump in OC, CA tomorrow at OC Fairgrounds! (vs., design)

[REITS4life]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

You may share values with them, I don't.

Wow. I don't even... I will make sure to let all the wildly successful, tax paying, law abiding Hispanics in this country that they are not good enough for the snobs in OC. They have a different colored skin and therefore their values aren't good enough for the likes of ysr.

It's mbell reincarnated into ysr.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

You may share values with them, I don't.

Are you failing to see the big picture? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Hispanics mainly share Western values although one could argue indigenous people differ somewhat, overall Hispanics share a similar culture to our own; one derived, obviously, from Spain (or Portugal, etc). Is that difficult for you to see? I'm not taliking about poverty and the fact that many Hispanic immigrants to the US have little or no education and often come from rural areas. These issues can be remedied over time whereas Europe's immigration situation is very different. Is this hard for you to grasp?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

The major difference between America and most European countries is twofold.

One, most European countries don't share a border with a county that sends it's worst, uneducated citizens over in droves. Some refuse to learn the language, some tax the system to its limits.

Two, most European countries don't have a former slave population that's still encouraged by their leaders to wallow in self pity, and continue to play the victim card, long after the victimisation has ended.

I can't think of any European county I'd like America to be more like. Most of them have high employment, high taxes, low GNP, and vast numbers of people working for the government.

No thanks.

While most countries are moving away from socialism, we seem to be moving toward it.

What an interesting post. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once famously said: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts."

1. Comparing European borders to the US borders would have to note that, as the US is 50 states, of which only four "share a border with a country" [that "sends it's worst"] (in your uneducated opinion), Europe is a union of 26 nations of which some 14 share a land or near-sea border with a desperate stream of refugees exceeding in number and rate any exodus / illegal immigration the United States has ever experienced. Refugees who, as largely unskilled or educated to any application of European labor needs, and arriving without any resources for their support, are burdening the European nations and Union at an absolute crisis level.

2. African Americans are not encouraged by any leadership to play any victim card over their former slavery. They are unsurprisingly protesting their on-going racially based discrimination and ostracization from the society that freed them legally and has failed to integrate them socially and economically.

3. If you remove the four outlier European nations experiencing economic crash conditions, unemployment in the 26 European Union nations, plus Australia and New Zealand - all socially progressive nations, is within 1/2 a percentage point of the US's most recent lowest position since the recession. (5.5% US : 6.03% European/Australian/NZ). Several of these same European nations boast lower unemployment and rival GDP, adjusted for population size, than the US. (Germany and Great Britain, for examples.) If socially progressive policies were any cause of failures, we wouldn't find so many European nations doing so remarkably well as identified. Add to this that the US generally falls between 8 - 12 on rating scales of quality-of and satisfaction-of-life indexes behind many European countries.

4. ALL developed and developing countries are increasing policies and governance that support social progressivism. Not moving away from it. The United States is dragging its feet by comparison to the rest of the free world. Name one other free country that is moving away from increasing social responsibility.

You're welcome. Always happy to provide facts.

[TCROX]

Fact: Trump 2016!

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by TCROX

Fact: Trump 2016!

"Fact!" What? That he's 'won' the nomination to run as THE most unpopular and reviled candidate in American history?

Very good. Excellent.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

"Fact!" What? That he's 'won' the nomination to run as THE most unpopular and reviled candidate in American history?

Very good. Excellent.

Trump 41%, Clinton 39% - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

[TCROX]

Thank you!

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Trump 41%, Clinton 39% - Rasmussen Reports™

Ummm:
Looking to November: Clinton leads Trump by double-digits in new poll

You really need to review the full situation, expat. Out of the six most recent polls, the Rasmussen that you cite is the only one giving Trump any lead.

The other five major polls give Clinton leads of 3, 7, 7, 11, and 13 points. In statistics it is considered standard practice to toss outliers from averaging. If we toss the Rasmussen and the top Clinton poll, we get an average of five major polls rating Clinton as the preferred candidate by 7 points. Even if you leave them in we get Clinton up by 6.5 points. Review below:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

By the way, if Sanders were to pull off the upset DNC nomination, the five most recent major polls average him at 13.4 points over Trump. Double Clinton's lead.

Originally Posted by TCROX

Thank you!

For what? Ignorant analysis?

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

"Fact!" What? That he's 'won' the nomination to run as THE most unpopular and reviled candidate in American history?

Very good. Excellent.

Billary, too, is reviled and perhaps soon, will be indicted. One can only hope her indictment occurs right after she is coronated by her party. It seems to be that that is what will occur.

Guccifer, the rural East European hacker, had no trouble hacking her defenseless account. Imagine who else did. Billary may well do time.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Billary, too, is reviled and perhaps soon, will be indicted. One can only hope her indictment occurs right after she is coronated by her party. It seems to be that that is what will occur.

Guccifer, the rural East European hacker, had no trouble hacking her defenseless account. Imagine who else did. Billary may well do time.

Hillary does, indeed, have dismal approval / popularity ratings. It is a awful election scenario of the two least popular candidates for POTUS in history. Her approval ratings do, however, vastly exceed Trump's.

The only candidate from either side of the fences, including all who have dropped out of both parties, who had/has high net approval ratings is .......... Bernie Sanders. The lifelong democratic socialist. Amazing election cycle for America.

As for the email scandal: Hillary's activities were certainly ill-conceived. But illegal? Not going anywhere in terms of criminal indictment. I'm no Clinton fan (Bill or Hillary). But a criminal conviction is just wishful thinking on the part of the uninformed.

On the other side we have the Donald being charged with fraud.

Hilarious that both of these "candidates" have the scales of justice dangling hatchets over their heads

Only silly old, rumpled Bernie is transparently clean as a whistle. Since he was a teenager. Talk about consistent in positions!