New Area Code 657 (Orange, Redlands: college, cost, centers)

[bhcompy]

cellphones, pagers, and ip phones. most numbers dont get reused(such as dead pager and cell #s), but ive heard lately that they are starting to reuse cell #s

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by bhcompy

cellphones, pagers, and ip phones. most numbers dont get reused(such as dead pager and cell #s), but ive heard lately that they are starting to reuse cell #s

Yes, and its not like every prefix is available for use by the public so there's far less than 1M numbers available in an area code. Businesses tend to use up a lot of numbers too. Thinking that an area code will never exhaust its pool of numbers because the land is built out is naive and stupid.

[bob-jenkins]

I said 1.7 million NEW residents, that takes into account 2 lines per person, plus 1.5 lines per person for businesses. That will never happen. Dont call me naive and stupid, your thought that North OC (NORTH ALONE!) will obtain 1.7 million new residents is ridiculous. It is physically impossible. A 2nd area code will never exhaust its pool in OC, it is not possible. The idea that north OC can attain 1.7 million new residents EVER is naive and stupid. We live in a built out region.

And if you could do the math (seems like you cannot) there are 9,999,999 numbers avaliable in an area code. You eliminate any that start with 0 or 1 or 911, that is 7,899,999 numbers avaliable. The Area Code commission is conservative on their estimate of 1.7 million residents per area code.

[EscapeCalifornia]

"Never" is a very long time. Saying an area will never exhaust its phone numbers is foolish at best.

[bob-jenkins]

You are drilling an empty well. Yes, so maybe in 300 years, OC might have 1.7 million new residents. I am glad to see you looking out for the well being of your great-great-great-great grandchildren.

Your point is wrong and you are making yourself look foolish. Just accept that north OC will not add 1.7 million residents in the forseeable future. That does not mean that your point of a 657 overlay is wrong, it just means that this point (that you have beat to death) is inprobable.

[EscapeCalifornia]

You know that more than just new residents drives phone number usage, right? Every company that wants to offer some phone service (cellular, VOIP, etc) sucks up blocks of number that they may never actually use but are allocated to them nonetheless. Most of LA has been "built out" for years yet they keep adding new area codes.

[bob-jenkins]

Geez, you wont give up! The Area code commission will NOT add a new area code until 1.7 million new residents (thats 1,700,000) occupy an existing area. They probably have taken all those things into consideration when determining the maximum occupancy of an area code.

And LA added a new area overlay many years ago....something that was well overdue. It is just like the 714/657 is now. But LA is not even contemplating a 3rd overlay in the same zone, just as OC will probably NEVER contemplate the idea. It will never be necessary. You proved yourself wrong in your own statement.

And that was also around the time of the cell phone craze....when it became necessary. The cell phone craze has passed.

[califantastic]

Most teenagers in OC have three cell phones.

[hgclyde]

Orange County will a have population increase because borders wont be controled regardless who in charge. by 2020 housing will recover. The county will be more urbanized than it is now. I Am afraid it will look like Long Island, Northern New Jersey,Arlington and Montgomery County let alone Du Page County near Chicago. Look for another overlay in South Orange County in 10 years I suspect (but hope not).

Western edges of Orange County which is under 562(La Habra, Cypress/ Los Alamitos, and Seal Beach) will get a new overlay area soon (I guess in a few years.)

[bob-jenkins]

Originally Posted by califantastic

Most teenagers in OC have three cell phones.

I have never met ONE teenager with more than ONE cell phone.