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I think Chinese (and Asians in general) don't have as much party loyalty in general. I remember way back when George H.W. Bush had made it easier for Chinese immigrants to get green cards (and later citizenship) immediately after the Tianmen Square incident. And when he lost the election, a bunch of them (including my parents) wrote him letters thanking him and telling him they would have voted for him had they been US Citizens at the time. Then when his son came into office, the same cohort expressed disgust over his policies (esp the Iraq war and the Hainan spy plane incident) and vowed to never support the Republican party again and later became Obama supporters.
Even among my family, we were hugely divided over the last election although many of the former Trump supporters have shifted their stance after seeing the trade war fiasco with China unfold.
Trade war fiasco? I would not have gone after my allies to begin with, but with China especially, it is very welcome and long overdue.
Let's see, the Democrats have basically said "It's okay to support racism against asians through affirmative action policies" and they wonder why they are losing that demographic?
Irvine, Westminster, Garden Grove, Cerritos, have huge asian populations.
I am a Chinese American opposed to affirmative action but like I said in a previous post, very few people are single issue voters. Affirmative action alone is unlikely to turn an otherwise liberal Asian voter into a Republican, much less the Asian community at large into Republicans. On most other issues Asians identify with the Democratic than Republican platform. Also, Democrats have been pushing affirmative action for decades, but the Asian electorate has gotten more, not less, blue.
I am a Chinese American opposed to affirmative action but like I said in a previous post, very few people are single issue voters. Affirmative action alone is unlikely to turn an otherwise liberal Asian voter into a Republican, much less the Asian community at large into Republicans. On most other issues Asians identify with the Democratic than Republican platform. Also, Democrats have been pushing affirmative action for decades, but the Asian electorate has gotten more, not less, blue.
I don't think most Asians actually agree with the issues on the DNC. One of my closest friends is a successful venture capitalist based out of Costa Mesa/Newport Beach, and is a Vietnamese immigrant. I've talked with him about this many times and basically we've come to the conclusion that many may have been brain washed by DNC propaganda, but if you actually go to the issues line by line, do you really see much agreement?
Support of Islam?
Illegal immigration?
High taxation?
Affirmative action?
Historically Asians tend to lean blue, but things have been changing. The #WalkAway Campaign FB group has garnered nearly 100,000 in less than 2 weeks. As more and more instances of Democrat racism begin to get exposed, things will change slowly, but surely as more and more people walk away from the Democrat party.
Trade war fiasco? I would not have gone after my allies to begin with, but with China especially, it is very welcome and long overdue.
Not gonna disagree with you on that being Chinese American myself and barely knowing what's going on in China these days.. but a lot of my older relatives still have the mindset that any policy that harms China is wrong, despite having become US Citizens for many years if not decades.
I don't think most Asians actually agree with the issues on the DNC. One of my closest friends is a successful venture capitalist based out of Costa Mesa/Newport Beach, and is a Vietnamese immigrant. I've talked with him about this many times and basically we've come to the conclusion that many may have been brain washed by DNC propaganda, but if you actually go to the issues line by line, do you really see much agreement?
Support of Islam?
Illegal immigration?
High taxation?
Affirmative action?
Historically Asians tend to lean blue, but things have been changing. The #WalkAway Campaign FB group has garnered nearly 100,000 in less than 2 weeks. As more and more instances of Democrat racism begin to get exposed, things will change slowly, but surely as more and more people walk away from the Democrat party.
Support of Islam--Many South Asians (Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, some Indians) are Muslim. Other Asians, such as the Chinese, may not be Muslim, but are largely atheist/agnostic from the Cultural Revolution and therefore don't really care for the evangelical right.
Illegal immigration--while tiny in comparison with illegal immigration from Mexico, there is a significant number of illegal immigrants from China, Korea, and the Philippines. Most Asians are for loosening immigration laws.
High taxation--maybe not high taxation per se (I doubt even the most unabashed liberal wants to pay more taxes) but yes for all the social benefits it brings for it. Many countries in Asia have more "progressive" healthcare than the U.S. Ditto for strict environmental laws. Hong Kong and Singapore have public housing policies that house a plurality, if not a majority, of the population).
Affirmative action--Of course, Asians have opposed affirmative action ever since it existed, and rightfully so. But affirmative action is nothing new; if Asians are in fact single-issue voters focusing mostly on affirmative action then we should have seen some right-ward shift long ago. In fact the opposite has happened, with George W. Bush winning Asians in 2000 but Trump losing them in 2016.
Pro-choice movement: Most Asians don't want their daughters to have an abortion. Many Pro-choice activists actually hate abortion and don't want anyone in their family to have one. But Asians, like pro-choice activists, are ok if a stranger gets an abortion. In their minds, it's not their business to force their values upon others.
Everyone is being brainwashed by DNC propaganda--blacks, Hispanics, Asians, white liberals alike. As F.A. von Hayek said, “If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists." The DNC, and the liberal elite holding the reins of the education system and media, are feeding everyone revisionist propaganda.
I am glad for your Vietnamese friend who can see through DNC deception but that is the exception, not the rule. Also, Vietnamese are historically the most Republican of Asian groups, kind of like what the Cubans are to Hispanics.
But Asians, like pro-choice activists, are ok if a stranger gets an abortion. In their minds, it's not their business to force their values upon others.
That's actually more libertarian, than say leftist. Personally, I'm a centrist and I don't care about Roe vs Wade, if Democrats want to abort their children, fine by me. I would never personally be with someone who would consider getting an abortion except in very fringe outlier cases.
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Everyone is being brainwashed by DNC propaganda--blacks, Hispanics, Asians, white liberals alike. As F.A. von Hayek said, “If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists." The DNC, and the liberal elite holding the reins of the education system and media, are feeding everyone revisionist propaganda.
This is true, but has been changing drastically recently due to the behavior of the Democrats. The Leftist control the three towers; Hollywood, education, and music. But those have been weakening in their effect. CNN has had some of the lowest ratings in the networks history in the past 18 months. Also Kathleen Kennedy, front woman for Disney Star Wars, is on the cusp of being fired for injecting feminism and SJW bull into the brand. People can only be force fed lies for so long.
#WalkAway group gained 100,000 in the month of July alone, and we're not even half way through.
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I am glad for your Vietnamese friend who can see through DNC deception but that is the exception, not the rule. Also, Vietnamese are historically the most Republican of Asian groups, kind of like what the Cubans are to Hispanics.
That's because like the Cubans, Vietnamese understand the dangers of Socialism that the Democrats embrace so dearly.
True, he's an exception for many reasons, primarily because he has a net worth well over $50,000,000 USD. But he's also a very active member of this community. Pretty much any Vietnamese entrepreneur of any worth in OC knows this guy, and follows his lead. People like him will create changes in perception within his own ethnic community.
IS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM now in the “ascendant” in the Democratic Party? That was the question posed by a reporter to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi last week, in the wake of democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s shock primary victory in New York’s 14th Congressional District.
And Pelosi’s response? “No.”
Of course it is in the ascendancy! Look at the throngs of poor people, heavily concentrated in cities, demanding communism (that the means of production be taken from the private sector). An explanation of the differences between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists is discussed in the video below. Among the interesting points: Danes scolded Bernie -- Denmark is in fact a market economy. Democratic Socialism (Ocasio-Cortez) is different to Social Democrats (liberals). Democratic Socialists are basically communist lite en route to full communism.
Support of Islam--Many South Asians (Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, some Indians) are Muslim. Other Asians, such as the Chinese, may not be Muslim, but are largely atheist/agnostic from the Cultural Revolution and therefore don't really care for the evangelical right.
Illegal immigration--while tiny in comparison with illegal immigration from Mexico, there is a significant number of illegal immigrants from China, Korea, and the Philippines. Most Asians are for loosening immigration laws.
High taxation--maybe not high taxation per se (I doubt even the most unabashed liberal wants to pay more taxes) but yes for all the social benefits it brings for it. Many countries in Asia have more "progressive" healthcare than the U.S. Ditto for strict environmental laws. Hong Kong and Singapore have public housing policies that house a plurality, if not a majority, of the population).
Affirmative action--Of course, Asians have opposed affirmative action ever since it existed, and rightfully so. But affirmative action is nothing new; if Asians are in fact single-issue voters focusing mostly on affirmative action then we should have seen some right-ward shift long ago. In fact the opposite has happened, with George W. Bush winning Asians in 2000 but Trump losing them in 2016.
Pro-choice movement: Most Asians don't want their daughters to have an abortion. Many Pro-choice activists actually hate abortion and don't want anyone in their family to have one. But Asians, like pro-choice activists, are ok if a stranger gets an abortion. In their minds, it's not their business to force their values upon others.
Everyone is being brainwashed by DNC propaganda--blacks, Hispanics, Asians, white liberals alike. As F.A. von Hayek said, “If socialists understood economics they wouldn't be socialists." The DNC, and the liberal elite holding the reins of the education system and media, are feeding everyone revisionist propaganda.
I am glad for your Vietnamese friend who can see through DNC deception but that is the exception, not the rule. Also, Vietnamese are historically the most Republican of Asian groups, kind of like what the Cubans are to Hispanics.
Actually, it's a false stereotype that Asian Americans are universally opposed to affirmative action. Many actually do support it...
While Vietnamese have been traditionally the most Republican leaning Asian group, also like the Cuban Americans, this allegiance declines with successive generations as the younger people are no longer motivated by emigre politics and jingoistic anti-Communism. Folks like Ly Tong are fading away.
While Vietnamese have been traditionally the most Republican leaning Asian group, also like the Cuban Americans, this allegiance declines with successive generations as the younger people are no longer motivated by emigre politics and jingoistic anti-Communism. Folks like Ly Tong are fading away.
They supported it because they thought it helped them, now that it's becoming more public that it actually hurts them, the only logical conclusion is that their support for the policy will wane away.
While Vietnamese have been traditionally the most Republican leaning Asian group, also like the Cuban Americans, this allegiance declines with successive generations as the younger people are no longer motivated by emigre politics and jingoistic anti-Communism. Folks like Ly Tong are fading away.
Jingoistic anti-communism.
Yeah, uh huh. You mean like the horrors that so many people experienced. That must be jingoistic anti-communism.
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