Orange County School Districts with Bus Service? (Mission Viejo: sale, 2014)

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Lola The yorkie

Our kids never had them in Irvine...no Mello Roos..

My sisters kids had to pay 300 per child in South County...no Mello Roos

Our grands never has busses in Mission Viejo

No Mello Roos..

Still think our lower prop taxes affect bus. Services

Bus is not free where we had them, it was VHCOL in the Bay Area. IIRC, it was like $50 a month back in 2000 time frame, I’m sure it’s much more now.
I know Irvine doesn’t have it, my kids had to take regular bus or walk home, but most of the Irvine areas that I’ve been have Mello Roos. It’s either big or small. Like Westpart 1, about $800, Westpart 2, about $2000, Columbus Grove, about $7000.

My first googling shows an article from Orange County Register that Newport Mesa has school bus 2015.

[Lola The yorkie]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

Bus is not free where we had them, it was VHCOL in the Bay Area. IIRC, it was like $50 a month back in 2000 time frame, I’m sure it’s much more now.
I know Irvine doesn’t have it, my kids had to take regular bus or walk home, but most of the Irvine areas that I’ve been have Mello Roos. It’s either big or small. Like Westpart 1, about $800, Westpart 2, about $2000, Columbus Grove, about $7000.

My first googling shows an article from Orange County Register that Newport Mesa has school bus 2015.

Ahhhh.....I was referring to FREE buses we had back East.....with high prop taxes..

We bought a Irvine home 1978..no Mello Roos....no buses

Have been in Tustin hills past 35 years..no Mello Roos..no buses

Obviously don’t know about Newport..

So I guess when you said in the Bay Area, I missed if you said they were not free!

That is what I call prop taxes affecting education expenses.....buses are included

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Lola The yorkie

Ahhhh.....I was referring to FREE buses we had back East.....with high prop taxes..

We bought a Irvine home 1978..no Mello Roos....no buses

Have been in Tustin hills past 35 years..no Mello Roos..no buses

Obviously don’t know about Newport..

So I guess when you said in the Bay Area, I missed if you said they were not free!

That is what I call prop taxes affecting education expenses.....buses are included

They were free for me in Fullerton, 1975-1976. But in Irvine they don’t even have bus route, let alone free bus.

[Lola The yorkie]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

They were free for me in Fullerton, 1975-1976. But in Irvine they don’t even have bus route, let alone free bus.

Yeah I remember...hubby moved to Irvine 1970 with two young sons...no buses ever..

Luckily their elementary and middle schools were walkable...high school they rode bikes..

These days we plan our shopping trips to avoid school hours..traffic is awful,,,,parents picking up, and the walkers clogging up the busy streets..

When I was in high school..most moms didn’t work..all of my schools were at least 7 miles away..

Times have changed!

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Lola The yorkie

Yeah I remember...hubby moved to Irvine 1970 with two young sons...no buses ever..

Luckily their elementary and middle schools were walkable...high school they rode bikes..

These days we plan our shopping trips to avoid school hours..traffic is awful,,,,parents picking up, and the walkers clogging up the busy streets..

When I was in high school..most moms didn’t work..all of my schools were at least 7 miles away..

Times have changed!

They don’t even have cafeteria in Irvine high schools, they built these schools in such as way that they are walkable to restaurants, or supermarkets nearby. That’s where my kids went sometime to get lunch, if we didn’t pack lunch for them.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by KaraG

I didn't realize that Prop 13 was the reason CA schools stopped bus service to the children. I guess it's positive for the older homeowners, not so much for young families that are newer homeowners.

Prop 13 applies equally to all taxable Real Estate in California and no where does it differentiate due to age.

Prop 13 sets the statewide tax at 1% of fair market value at the time of transfer with a limit of 2% annual inflation factor. Prop does not limited additional assessments with voter approval... 55% for school infrastructure and 2/3 for everything else.

Voters supported Prop 13 in large part due to the State taking over local school funding... it was one thing to pay higher taxes to support local schools and another when local tax dollars went to other districts.

[Lola The yorkie]

Originally Posted by NewbieHere

They don’t even have cafeteria in Irvine high schools, they built these schools in such as way that they are walkable to restaurants, or supermarkets nearby. That’s where my kids went sometime to get lunch, if we didn’t pack lunch for them.

Wow...didn’t know about cafeteria and high schools in Irvine...

Obviously why our streets etc are so busy at lunch time..

But is fast food any worse..or cheaper than cafeteria food..

My mom always packed our lunches

[NewbieHere]

Originally Posted by Lola The yorkie

Wow...didn’t know about cafeteria and high schools in Irvine...

Obviously why our streets etc are so busy at lunch time..

But is fast food any worse..or cheaper than cafeteria food..

My mom always packed our lunches

Poor kids get free food in cafeteria, but I guess not in a Irvine. We usually packed lunch for our kids, but on rare occasion we didn’t, then my kids went to these places.

[KaraG]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Prop 13 applies equally to all taxable Real Estate in California and no where does it differentiate due to age.

Prop 13 sets the statewide tax at 1% of fair market value at the time of transfer with a limit of 2% annual inflation factor. Prop does not limited additional assessments with voter approval... 55% for school infrastructure and 2/3 for everything else.

I never said it differentiated by age, I said newer homeowners. But obviously, a young family with children in school who just purchased their home is going to pay way more property taxes than Lola, who purchased her home 50 years ago. And they are the ones hurt by the loss of school bus service, something that is still available to millions of American families all over the country, rich or poor.

As for the schools having no cafeterias, they still had food, the kids just ate outside. At the high school they had stations where the kids could get pizza, burgers, snacks, etc.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Lola The yorkie

Prop 13

Not the case.

https://lao.ca.gov/reports/2014/educ...on-022514.aspx

Public school districts all over the country have cut back on bus transportation for students.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/b...e-school-buses