Trapped in OC, need to escape (Orange, Nice: zoning, county, place)

[Texasturkey]

Originally Posted by flo2900

L-88 please note that usually the more poor ppl are the more children they have...It`s a mistery I could never understand...

Where I live in Southern LA County, there are a lot of lower income Hispanic Catholic families. They have strong family values. Reproducing is their highest priority. Family is everything. Girls start popping them out as soon as they are able to. Families have as many children as they can. Education, financial security and achivement are insignificant. The parents didn't go to college, neither did their children or grandchildren. They cut corners instead of paying their dues. They rent houses and apartments in less desirable areas. They have their language, food, music and culture. They go to their native country as often as they can. They get by with very little and can care less about reality and the real world. The cycle of poverty repeats itself.

[Texasturkey]

Originally Posted by AKgirlinCA

I want to escape too. Hopefully to the greater DFW area in the future, a little place by the name of Allen . I am aware of their traffic issues as well, but the crowding is nothing compared to here. Going into downtown Dallas on a Saturday was completely hassle free, how refreshing. I would not DREAM of going into downtown LA on a Saturday. Also, I find salaries and cost of living there to balance each other quite nicely. UNLIKE here. I also like the fact that they actually have weather there. Unfortunately, we will be here for at least another 2 years while I finish school, however we will be planning in the meantime for our escape. I definitely don't want to raise my future children here and I have a feeling it is only going to get worse in the near future as well.

Take the Metro Rail into Downtown LA on a Saturday.
(Red Line) Downtown, Union Station, Olvera Street, Mid Wilshire
Miracle Mile, Little Tokyo.

$1.25 or $5 Day pass.

[calidude]

I went to high school in Anaheim so i was always in fullerton and brea for some reason. I dont know why your leaving fullerton is a very nice and safe town. MAybe you should try SAn luis obispo or santa barbara for a change of sceneary.

[Coldjensens]

Move to the Detroit metro area. Houses are almost free. Detroit is in trouble, but the suburbs are awesome. Air is clean, the state is beautiful. Waterfront property is abundant and affordable. As long as you do not need to find a job, it is great.

[shannonM]

Originally Posted by scorpionleather

I've been living in OC (Fullerton) since 1975 and up until the early 1990s we still had some orange groves and it was nice, but ever since then the TRAFFIC is miserable.

People talk about all the things to do in OC and LA, but what use is it when you can't even go anywhere on a Saturday afternoon because you're stuck staring at someone's license plate and sucking in the exhaust of a big rig going 2mph?

Any other long-time OC residents feel the same way or is it just me? I mean, I am dying. I'm trapped in the house unless I pick some unusual time to "go out."

I can understand traffic jams at 8am and 5pm. But getting stuck on every freeway on a Saturday afternoon? It's time to escape to another state.

have you picked a state yet?

[Reivax]

take I-10 east until you hit a town called Houston, Texas.
Nice place.

[mrjason]

Originally Posted by shannonM

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have you picked a state yet?

Northeastern Nevada--done deal. I move tomorrow. I'm stoked, as we coastal Californian's would say...well, ten years ago we did, anyway. I'm moving there to continue my dream of working as an educator, and I have a feeling I may not look back.

[scorpionleather]

Originally Posted by shannonM

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have you picked a state yet?

Colorado. I just visited the Colorado Springs and South Denver region for 4 days. Other possibilities would be the mountains of Utah or some parts of Wyoming. When I travel to these parts of the country I don't know what I'm doing in Southern California, I feel like I am crazy for being in OC because it is so much nicer in the Rocky Mountain states. I just need to transfer jobs.

[scorpionleather]

Originally Posted by Texasturkey

Where I live in Southern LA County, there are a lot of lower income Hispanic Catholic families. They have strong family values. Reproducing is their highest priority. Family is everything. Girls start popping them out as soon as they are able to. Families have as many children as they can. Education, financial security and achivement are insignificant. The parents didn't go to college, neither did their children or grandchildren. They cut corners instead of paying their dues. They rent houses and apartments in less desirable areas. They have their language, food, music and culture. They go to their native country as often as they can. They get by with very little and can care less about reality and the real world. The cycle of poverty repeats itself.

Texasturkey, as much as some people don't want to hear this, you are 100% correct. There is a cycle of poverty repeating itself in Southern California because of this kind of family value emphasizing reproduction and it's not going to change unless there is some kind of cultural shift. This is taking the region downhill fast as we're becoming a third world mega-city.

[flo2900]

Originally Posted by Reivax

take I-10 east until you hit a town called Houston, Texas.
Nice place.

im gonna do that soon i hope!