OC Political Question (Los Angeles, Orange, Newport Beach: bankrupt, moving, suburb)

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by cabolissa

Not sayin' they weren't. But they were ALSO Bush supporters. Now, they're avoiding him with a 10-foot pole.

not in all cases, we were big Bush supporters in 2000, by 2004 we were not. He was a popular governor and we lived in Texas at the time he ran the first time. I know others that were very disalutions by the beginning or middle of his second term. Isn't it ok to be for something or someone and change your mind?

There were many reasons Obama won and much of it had to do with the last 4 years..

Mach, read what I said, I said most were Reagan supporters way before Bush, not most are not or were not Bush supporters. Of course there are many who supported Bush til the end, especially in places like OC>

Nita

[majoun]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

Most of the social conservatives live south of Santa Ana. The northern part of the county is a little more moderate.

Most of the beach communities are liberal, but that's almost everywhere in California.

I wouldn't exactly call OC's beach communities "liberal" except for Laguna Beach. The rest are very Republican. But some of them are more socially liberal than the rest of the county. For example, Seal Beach and Huntington Beach are GOP bastions but they voted against Prop 8.

One of the above posters mentioned Reagan living in OC - I don't think he ever did ; he lived in L.A. and S.B. but not OC. He certainly was super-popular in OC. OTOH, Nixon was a native of OC, having grown up back in the days when OC was dominated by agriculture and oil and populated largely by Lower Midwesterners, Texans, and Louisianans. (The background of OC's early 20th century population explains a great deal about its political leanings!) Of the 3 presidents CA has produced, Nixon was the only native Californian, as Hoover and Reagan were both born elsewhere.

[MisterDuke]

Originally Posted by ocexpo

Nixon/Reagan.

Both lived in the county at some point.

There is a huge "Reagan" respect thing here in OC.

When did Reagan live in OC? That's news to me.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by MisterDuke

When did Reagan live in OC? That's news to me.

funny you would pick up on that? I was thinking the same thing but thought I had contributed enough to this discussion...

Nita

[happ]

Wasn't Nixon born in Whittier? [LA county].

Here's interesting data showing how strong Democrats are in Southern California:

"The eight GOP congressional districts that swung Democratic are largely in exurban areas that Republicans have long claimed as their own. Seven are in Southern California, including David Dreier's district along the foothills of northeast Los Angeles County and western San Bernardino County; Howard P. "Buck" McKeon's sprawling district that includes Palmdale, Lancaster and much of the eastern Sierra Nevada; and Elton Gallegly's district, which stretches from Simi Valley to Solvang. Two other unexpectedly pro-Obama districts included Riverside and Palm Springs, while another is in northern San Diego County. The one sure to induce a double-take is John Campbell's (formerly Christopher Cox's) coastal Orange County district centered on Newport Beach -- John Wayne country, a bastion of American conservatism. Yet Obama carried it by 2,500 votes".

As the GOP stands firm, California is changing direction - Los Angeles Times

[buckeyenative01]

Originally Posted by majoun

I wouldn't exactly call OC's beach communities "liberal" except for Laguna Beach. The rest are very Republican. But some of them are more socially liberal than the rest of the county. For example, Seal Beach and Huntington Beach are GOP bastions but they voted against Prop 8.

You're right, and I should've clarified that. Compared to the rest of the county, OC's beach communities are a little more liberal than what you see further inland.

And on another topic, Reagan launched his campaign for presidency in Orange County, but as far as I can tell, never actually lived in the area.

And if Goldwater were still alive today and saw what happened to the GOP/conservatives, he'd be pissed. Lets not forget that by the end of his senate term he was considered a moderate and was a huge critic of the Moral Majority/religious right taking over the Republican Party. By today's standards, he's more Libertarian than Republican.

After all, he was the one who said "Every good Christian ought to kick Jerry Falwell's ass." (paraphrased)

[majoun]

Originally Posted by happ

Wasn't Nixon born in Whittier? [LA county].

Here's interesting data showing how strong Democrats are in Southern California:

"The eight GOP congressional districts that swung Democratic are largely in exurban areas that Republicans have long claimed as their own. Seven are in Southern California, including David Dreier's district along the foothills of northeast Los Angeles County and western San Bernardino County; Howard P. "Buck" McKeon's sprawling district that includes Palmdale, Lancaster and much of the eastern Sierra Nevada; and Elton Gallegly's district, which stretches from Simi Valley to Solvang. Two other unexpectedly pro-Obama districts included Riverside and Palm Springs, while another is in northern San Diego County. The one sure to induce a double-take is John Campbell's (formerly Christopher Cox's) coastal Orange County district centered on Newport Beach -- John Wayne country, a bastion of American conservatism. Yet Obama carried it by 2,500 votes".

As the GOP stands firm, California is changing direction - Los Angeles Times

Nixon was born in Yorba Linda, but his family moved to Whittier (in L.A. county) when he was 10. His law practice was in Whittier. The congressional district he represented was in L.A. County.

As president, he established the "Western White House" in San Clemente.

BTW, given the ethnic changes in the Antelope Valley, I'd be surprised if McKeown's district stays solidly GOP, and I'm not surprised it went for Obama. That looks like it could easily become a "swing district"

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by happ

Wasn't Nixon born in Whittier? [LA county].

Here's interesting data showing how strong Democrats are in Southern California:

"The eight GOP congressional districts that swung Democratic are largely in exurban areas that Republicans have long claimed as their own. Seven are in Southern California, including David Dreier's district along the foothills of northeast Los Angeles County and western San Bernardino County; Howard P. "Buck" McKeon's sprawling district that includes Palmdale, Lancaster and much of the eastern Sierra Nevada; and Elton Gallegly's district, which stretches from Simi Valley to Solvang. Two other unexpectedly pro-Obama districts included Riverside and Palm Springs, while another is in northern San Diego County. The one sure to induce a double-take is John Campbell's (formerly Christopher Cox's) coastal Orange County district centered on Newport Beach -- John Wayne country, a bastion of American conservatism. Yet Obama carried it by 2,500 votes".

As the GOP stands firm, California is changing direction - Los Angeles Times

and your point is??

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

You're right, and I should've clarified that. Compared to the rest of the county, OC's beach communities are a little more liberal than what you see further inland.

And on another topic, Reagan launched his campaign for presidency in Orange County, but as far as I can tell, never actually lived in the area.

And if Goldwater were still alive today and saw what happened to the GOP/conservatives, he'd be pissed. Lets not forget that by the end of his senate term he was considered a moderate and was a huge critic of the Moral Majority/religious right taking over the Republican Party. By today's standards, he's more Libertarian than Republican.

After all, he was the one who said "Every good Christian ought to kick Jerry Falwell's ass." (paraphrased)

you are right on both< Reagan did kick off his campaign in OC but never lived there and Goldwater would not be a conservative as in Jerry Falwell conservative but many consertatives are not religious conservatives. Too many think the two are one, not so...As for Nixon, he was born in Yorba Linda I believe, he served while in WHittier..

I see Majoun already pointed out Nixon was born in Yorba Linda..
Nita

[majoun]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

You're right, and I should've clarified that. Compared to the rest of the county, OC's beach communities are a little more liberal than what you see further inland.

And on another topic, Reagan launched his campaign for presidency in Orange County, but as far as I can tell, never actually lived in the area.

And if Goldwater were still alive today and saw what happened to the GOP/conservatives, he'd be pissed. Lets not forget that by the end of his senate term he was considered a moderate and was a huge critic of the Moral Majority/religious right taking over the Republican Party. By today's standards, he's more Libertarian than Republican.

After all, he was the one who said "Every good Christian ought to kick Jerry Falwell's ass." (paraphrased)

At the 1996 GOP convention, Goldwater and Bob Dole were talking, and Barry said to Bob, "we're the liberals of the party now" in reference to how far right the GOP had moved.