The Truth about California from a former west coast Girl... (San Diego: apartment complexes, renting)

[sunnysideoflife]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Hi google in top 101 cities and you will find a web-site that is filled with statistical information about major cities in the U.S. This is the link: www.city-data.com/top2/toplists2.html. Then scroll down the list about a 1/4 of the way down and click on the link that says: Top 101 cities with the highest ratio of rapes to murders. Yorba Linda is listed as the 35th city.. Hope this helps some.

Am I missing something, or is this merely a ratio between two different types of crime, not an overall level of crime? Since it's described as a ratio of one crime to another I would think the math would work like this:

AREA 1 - 3/5 = 60% ratio of crime 1 to crime 2

AREA 2 - 40/100 = 40% ratio of crime 1 to crime 2

AREA 1 has a higher ratio than AREA 2. However there were 37 more crime 1s in total in AREA 2.

Let's say each area has a population of 200 people. The crime rate in AREA 1 would be 3/200 = 1.5%. The crime rate in AREA 2 would be 20%. So, the area with the higher ratio of crimes would still have a lower overall crime rate.

What am I missing here? Does anyone know how to interpret this statistic (or what the usefulness is)?

[Raelyn28]

My husband said that it simply meant that if there were 10 rapes resulting in 9 murders it would be a high ratio of rapes to murders. In other words the situation in Yorba Linda is not good no matter how many murders there are... Make sense???

[sunnysideoflife]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

My husband said that it simply meant that if there were 10 rapes resulting in 9 murders it would be a high ratio of rapes to murders. In other words the situation in Yorba Linda is not good no matter how many murders there are... Make sense???

Haha, first, no need to get defensive.

Secondly, if it's a ratio of one crime to another, then my math is right, and that statistic isn't an indication of overall crime levels. Therefore, it really isn't saying Yorba Linda is no good no matter how many murders. It's not really saying anything about the overall crime rate.

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

My husband said that it simply meant that if there were 10 rapes resulting in 9 murders it would be a high ratio of rapes to murders. In other words the situation in Yorba Linda is not good no matter how many murders there are... Make sense???

Well, you can't have a ratio with 0 murders. So the murder to population ratio for 2005-2007 would be 0/55,000...which mathematically could not possibily make it in the top of the list. The only murders have occurred in 2008 4/65,000 which, again, would not be able to make Yorba Linda a murder capital.

[Raelyn28]

Just telling you about the statistics thats all. My husband explained what it meant. I actually like Yorba Linda compared to the other cities in Orange County. My step-daughter lives there. She doesn't like it but then once again just another person's personal preference. All I intended when I started this thread was to answer some questions on the OC forum because I used to live there and people were inquiring about it.

Just like every other person who lives there has their right to their personal likes and dislikes so do I. I just stated some statistics and tryed to be balanced with what I experienced good and bad. If other people like OC then that is fine... That is their viewpoint. Maybe it is a good experience for many people but personally I didn't like it there. Many people don't and some do. That is all, I am not trying to bash it or be negative.. I am not quite understanding why there are people on this forum who can't accept another person's opinion.

I have answered similar questions and given my opinion on other states because I have lived in four different places. Nobody on the other threads ever argues about anything. This just goes to show you how much strife there is among those who reside in Southern Cal. Gee.. chill out please. And I guess if the statistics on that site don't matter, than why did they post them?? Just a thought.

Originally Posted by sunnysideoflife

Haha, first, no need to get defensive.

Secondly, if it's a ratio of one crime to another, then my math is right, and that statistic isn't an indication of overall crime levels. Therefore, it really isn't saying Yorba Linda is no good no matter how many murders. It's not really saying anything about the overall crime rate.

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Hi google in top 101 cities and you will find a web-site that is filled with statistical information about major cities in the U.S. This is the link: www.city-data.com/top2/toplists2.html. Then scroll down the list about a 1/4 of the way down and click on the link that says: Top 101 cities with the highest ratio of rapes to murders. Yorba Linda is listed as the 35th city.. Hope this helps some.

All this is saying is that there are as many rapes as murders. Seeing how there are not too many murders, there must be more rapes than murder to have a higher ratio. A city with a low murder rate will automatically be in this list, since 10:0 is a higher ratio than 10:9 (rapes:murders). So even a small number of rapes will skew the results due to the low number of murders (100:50 = 10:5 = 2:1...all these ratios equal each other, but clearly the last one has the lowest total amount of crime...but 100:50 is less than 2:0...even though the later one has overall less crime). So the ratios are really a poor reflection of overall crime rank.

[Raelyn28]

Hi since I am being corrected and rebuked for not knowing my stuff here especially about the former Anaheim based Rams I will make a correction. The rams did not move to Kansas they in fact moved to St. Louis. Sorry for the mistake with that. I didn't really follow them after they left the State.

With that being corrected I wish to add something before I go. In the last couple of days since I posted this thread I have been accused of not knowing what I am talking about and some have said that I didn't live there at all.

I did live in Southern California. I moved there in 1979 and left in 2002. I experienced many different places all the way from San Diego up to L.A County and everywhere in between.

Hopefully my information will be of some help to those of you who are looking for the total picture of what the area is like. I will not change my post or change my mind even under criticism because I believe I haven't lied about anything. I know what I know and I moved away for a reason. I moved because I personally didn't like it there and didn't want to raise a family in that atmosphere.

With that said, I realize I am just one person out of millions and many people do like it there. I do not wish to take that from them. But I do ask that they would allow me my feelings and opinions as I do the same for them.

Again, this forum is about people helping people make relocation choices and we have to be honest with them. This is all I have desired to do from the moment I became part of this forum. So, good luck to all of you who live in Southern California or for those who are considering a move there. I wish you the best and may you make where ever you go a better place.

Just do your research and ask lots of questions. Knowledge is a great thing to have. God bless you!!!

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Hello, this post is for those who have never been to Southern California and are looking for information regarding the area. Please believe me... I am NOT trying to be negative because I am not a negative person. I am only trying to help you with my own experience living in Southern California. I am only doing this to help those of you who are thinking about relocating to the area and need help. Trust me I have a lot of better things to do with my time but I really feel this is important so please take a few minutes to read this.

For those of you who absolutely have to make the move then this is my advise.. do a lot of research, ask many questions and don't fall for the information that only shows you the beauty of California. The beauty is only a small part of the picture. Just so you know, I was the typical blonde california girl and totally fit the profile. At one point I was training to become an NFL Ram's cheerleader. Unfortunately, I injured my ankle in my jazz class the day before tryouts and I was unable to participate. The very next year the Rams left for Kansas City. By the way, have you ever wondered why such a large place like Orange County does not have a professional football team anymore?? Interestingly this is what I found out.. When L.A. and Anaheim were home to the Raiders and Rams they didn't make enough money because they didn't have enough loyal and supportive fans. So basically both teams packed up and left... Very sad that an area with so much status and wealth does not have any pro teams. I guess everyone is too busy in California so they have better things to do than sit at a football game??? Or there is just too much to do?? Whatever the case they lost their NFL teams. Hopefully for all you football fans like myself.. someday they can get one back..

Before I tell you more of the negative, let me begin with the positive. First of all, there is A LOT of good things about California. Primarily the weather is awesome. It is basically never too hot (unless you are inland) and it is extremely mild in the winter. The sky is blue most of the time and there are places by the beach that are amazing and breathtaking. I love the ocean and it is one of my favorite places to be.

There is a lot to do in California and many great opportunities for the young and old alike. You never get bored because if you have the money there are always fun places to go. Disneyland was a place that I visited on a regular basis. I loved to get an annual pass and go there in the wee hours just before closing to go on Splash Mountain over and over again. No lines late at night!! Knotts Berry Farm is great, six flags not too far of a drive and Universal Studios a couple of hours away. So much to do and too much to list here in this post.

I met my husband in San Diego County, had my first son in Irvine and my second son in Anaheim Hills. So California holds many precious memories for me. I would have to write a book to tell you of all the happy memories I had in California...

What disappointed me is the fact that it is extremely crowded, stressful on the highways and there is an awful lot of crime. It is so expensive that I never owned a home in the 20-years that I lived there. Half the time I couldn't understand my neighbor because everyone spoke another language. Nothing wrong with that (I have many beautiful Spanish speaking friends) but when an English speaking woman goes to the grocery store and can not find something and nobody speaks english, I have a problem with that. I really started feeling like an alien in Orange County. I actually felt very lonely at times

Another issue is the air quality. In the summer there are frequent smog warnings and you are basically told to stay inside unless you have to go out. I had terrible allergies and sinus problems while living there. I know it was the air quality because almost immediately after I moved to Oregon my problems went away.

I think there are absolutely way too many people in Southern Ca. It takes 2-3 hours to get to a 10-mile location most of the time. Even at night... My step-kids and several friends live there and they hate it. They continually tell me that it is getting worse with each passing year.

Finding a job is another problem. Jobs are hard to come by everywhere but read the statistics on California. The state is in a heap of trouble financially.

There are gangs and bad neighborhoods everywhere. You can be in a nice neighborhood and drive a half mile down the street and you will be in a bad neighborhood. For example, at the beginning of my marriage my husband and I lived in a really nice apartment. One night while we were sitting on the patio we heard gunshot. My husband ran down the street to try and help. A teenage boy was dead in the street as a result of a drive by shooting. It is very hard to find a decent place to live unless you are making a huge amount of money.

So again this is my suggestion. If you have to move there do your homework, talk to a lot of people and weigh your options carefully. If you are rich move to a beach house in Malibu, Laguna Beach, Newport, etc. Stay on the beach and don't venture too far inland. Also, there are very nice places along the coast just south of Irvine and nice places in Irvine and Costa Mesa, but then again you will be paying a high price to live there.

And also, home school your children or put them in the best private school you can find... again if you can afford it. Between the gangs and all the other problems it just wasn't worth it to me.

Good luck to you... Again, I hope my honesty will help you in making a decision whether or not to move to California and where to live. At least if you go there you won't be thinking it is just like the movies or a popular television series. I am just sharing my experience with you. Have a great week/weekend.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Just do your research and ask lots of questions.

You mean regular research, or Raelyn28 research, which yields stunningly inaccurate posts such as this gem:

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

I hate to burst your denial bubble. But Yorba Linda is listed as the top 35 city as far as being the highest in murders.

Do C-D a favor, and leave the research up to people who actually have the ability to comprehend what they're reading.

And while you're at it, pass on my sympathies to your husband.

[Raelyn28]

You are really a prize you know it?? I told the people to do their own research but I guess you were only reading and comprehending according to your own bitterness, anger and unresolved dysfunctional past. You don't bother me at all Fontucky because your anger seethes out in every word that you create. Someone must have done something really awful to you to make you so bitter.

And by the way... My husband is a very happy man. Something you wouldn't know. I hope you get the help that you need. I really sincerely mean that. I tryed to be civil and kind to you asking for a truse and requesting you as a friend but you just keep attacking me. Sleep well my friend, sleep well..




ote=Fontucky;9000987]You mean regular research, or Raelyn28 research, which yields stunningly inaccurate posts such as this gem:



Do C-D a favor, and leave the research up to people who actually have the ability to comprehend what they're reading.

And while you're at it, pass on my sympathies to your husband.[/quote]

[Raelyn28]

I have been told that Yorba Linda is not one of the top 35-cities with the highest murder rates. The data that I read actually mentioned that the ratio between murders and rapes were the highest in Yorba Linda. It was in fact rated the top 35 in that statistic. So with that said.. I have made a couple of inaccurate statements here and I apologize for that. I don't want to be misleading to anyone. With all that said, I still would not live there and I disliked it with a passion. SO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DO NOT RELY ON MINE. My experience is my experience. Yours will be yours and I hope it is different for you.

Originally Posted by Raelyn28

Hi since I am being corrected and rebuked for not knowing my stuff here especially about the former Anaheim based Rams I will make a correction. The rams did not move to Kansas they in fact moved to St. Louis. Sorry for the mistake with that. I didn't really follow them after they left the State.

With that being corrected I wish to add something before I go. In the last couple of days since I posted this thread I have been accused of not knowing what I am talking about and some have said that I didn't live there at all.

I did live in Southern California. I moved there in 1979 and left in 2002. I experienced many different places all the way from San Diego up to L.A County and everywhere in between.

Hopefully my information will be of some help to those of you who are looking for the total picture of what the area is like. I will not change my post or change my mind even under criticism because I believe I haven't lied about anything. I know what I know and I moved away for a reason. I moved because I personally didn't like it there and didn't want to raise a family in that atmosphere.

With that said, I realize I am just one person out of millions and many people do like it there. I do not wish to take that from them. But I do ask that they would allow me my feelings and opinions as I do the same for them.

Again, this forum is about people helping people make relocation choices and we have to be honest with them. This is all I have desired to do from the moment I became part of this forum. So, good luck to all of you who live in Southern California or for those who are considering a move there. I wish you the best and may you make where ever you go a better place.

Just do your research and ask lots of questions. Knowledge is a great thing to have. God bless you!!!