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Old 05-26-2009, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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Wink The Truth about California from a former west coast Girl...

Hello, this post is for those who have never been to Southern California and are looking for information regarding the area. Please believe me... I am NOT trying to be negative because I am not a negative person. I am only trying to help you with my own experience living in Southern California. I am only doing this to help those of you who are thinking about relocating to the area and need help. Trust me I have a lot of better things to do with my time but I really feel this is important so please take a few minutes to read this.

For those of you who absolutely have to make the move then this is my advise.. do a lot of research, ask many questions and don't fall for the information that only shows you the beauty of California. The beauty is only a small part of the picture. Just so you know, I was the typical blonde california girl and totally fit the profile. At one point I was training to become an NFL Ram's cheerleader. Unfortunately, I injured my ankle in my jazz class the day before tryouts and I was unable to participate. The very next year the Rams left for Kansas City. By the way, have you ever wondered why such a large place like Orange County does not have a professional football team anymore?? Interestingly this is what I found out.. When L.A. and Anaheim were home to the Raiders and Rams they didn't make enough money because they didn't have enough loyal and supportive fans. So basically both teams packed up and left... Very sad that an area with so much status and wealth does not have any pro teams. I guess everyone is too busy in California so they have better things to do than sit at a football game??? Or there is just too much to do?? Whatever the case they lost their NFL teams. Hopefully for all you football fans like myself.. someday they can get one back..

Before I tell you more of the negative, let me begin with the positive. First of all, there is A LOT of good things about California. Primarily the weather is awesome. It is basically never too hot (unless you are inland) and it is extremely mild in the winter. The sky is blue most of the time and there are places by the beach that are amazing and breathtaking. I love the ocean and it is one of my favorite places to be.

There is a lot to do in California and many great opportunities for the young and old alike. You never get bored because if you have the money there are always fun places to go. Disneyland was a place that I visited on a regular basis. I loved to get an annual pass and go there in the wee hours just before closing to go on Splash Mountain over and over again. No lines late at night!! Knotts Berry Farm is great, six flags not too far of a drive and Universal Studios a couple of hours away. So much to do and too much to list here in this post.

I met my husband in San Diego County, had my first son in Irvine and my second son in Anaheim Hills. So California holds many precious memories for me. I would have to write a book to tell you of all the happy memories I had in California...

What disappointed me is the fact that it is extremely crowded, stressful on the highways and there is an awful lot of crime. It is so expensive that I never owned a home in the 20-years that I lived there. Half the time I couldn't understand my neighbor because everyone spoke another language. Nothing wrong with that (I have many beautiful Spanish speaking friends) but when an English speaking woman goes to the grocery store and can not find something and nobody speaks english, I have a problem with that. I really started feeling like an alien in Orange County. I actually felt very lonely at times

Another issue is the air quality. In the summer there are frequent smog warnings and you are basically told to stay inside unless you have to go out. I had terrible allergies and sinus problems while living there. I know it was the air quality because almost immediately after I moved to Oregon my problems went away.

I think there are absolutely way too many people in Southern Ca. It takes 2-3 hours to get to a 10-mile location most of the time. Even at night... My step-kids and several friends live there and they hate it. They continually tell me that it is getting worse with each passing year.

Finding a job is another problem. Jobs are hard to come by everywhere but read the statistics on California. The state is in a heap of trouble financially.

There are gangs and bad neighborhoods everywhere. You can be in a nice neighborhood and drive a half mile down the street and you will be in a bad neighborhood. For example, at the beginning of my marriage my husband and I lived in a really nice apartment. One night while we were sitting on the patio we heard gunshot. My husband ran down the street to try and help. A teenage boy was dead in the street as a result of a drive by shooting. It is very hard to find a decent place to live unless you are making a huge amount of money.

So again this is my suggestion. If you have to move there do your homework, talk to a lot of people and weigh your options carefully. If you are rich move to a beach house in Malibu, Laguna Beach, Newport, etc. Stay on the beach and don't venture too far inland. Also, there are very nice places along the coast just south of Irvine and nice places in Irvine and Costa Mesa, but then again you will be paying a high price to live there.

And also, home school your children or put them in the best private school you can find... again if you can afford it. Between the gangs and all the other problems it just wasn't worth it to me.

Good luck to you... Again, I hope my honesty will help you in making a decision whether or not to move to California and where to live. At least if you go there you won't be thinking it is just like the movies or a popular television series. I am just sharing my experience with you. Have a great week/weekend.

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Old 05-26-2009, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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Oh yes, and last but not least I forgot to include a very important fact to my above accessment of Southern cal. Those earthquakes. I used I had nightmares for several years following my move away from California. They would usually happen in the early hours just before dawn. I would awaken to my bed shaking, the house creaking, things falling off the walls. It is the most un-nerving experience and I really disliked it. Anyway, just thought I would add a footnote.. If you don't like earthquakes you had better re-think your move or else move to a single story home.

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Old 05-26-2009, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The very next year the Rams left for Kansas City. By the way, have you ever wondered why such a large place like Orange County does not have a professional football team anymore?? Interestingly this is what I found out.. When L.A. and Anaheim were home to the Raiders and Rams they didn't make enough money because they didn't have enough loyal and supportive fans. So basically both teams packed up and left... Very sad that an area with so much status and wealth does not have any pro teams. I guess everyone is too busy in California so they have better things to do than sit at a football game??? Or there is just too much to do?? Whatever the case they lost their NFL teams. Hopefully for all you football fans like myself.. someday they can get one back..
(St. Louis Rams, not Kansas City.)

You may be correct about the fans - just a caveat, I remember issues that had to do with luxury boxes and disagreements between management and the stadiums and the cities. Another thing, so many people in California are from another state that there isn't a lot of home grown allegiance as there is in other cities. But you are correct, there are a lot of other things to do besides football that are competing for a person's entertainment dollar.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Charles already mentioned the Rams moved to St Louis, not KC, but they are close together anyway.

As for the Rams move, I really don't think it was strictly money, it had to do with the facilities, yes, when they moved to Orange County they probably lost a lot of true fans, which did cost them. If there had been a new field built for them or they could have survived the falling down coliseum they would still be in Los Angeles, but this is getting off the subject I think.

Nita
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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The reason that the Rams didn't sell well in Anaheim is that they STUNK. The owner, Georgia Frontiere, was a complete moron (I used to love how Jim Healy would carve her up on his radio show) and so was the GM. Ray Malavasi was hardly inspiring, either. To be frank, I was so disgusted with the Rams as well as the debacle that was the Raiders tenure in L.A. that I stopped watching pro football entirely. When they finally left, my attitude was, "good riddance. Now we can be a baseball town again."

I also hated what the Rams did to Anaheim Stadium, completely enclosing it and making it seem a lot less inviting. When I was in high school in the 1970's and the mood struck me, I would climb up the trees behind the centerfield fence and taken in a game every now and again. It was such a nice, neat and friendly park then. Saw some great concerts there, too, before the Rams moved in.

Also, you said you lived in Irvine and Anaheim Hills and your neighbors didn't speak english? I lived in AH for a time and hispanics weren't exactly plentiful there and neither do they have much of a presence in Irvine. So it sounds like you moved to either downtown Anaheim or Santa Ana at some point.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I used to love how Jim Healy would carve her up on his radio show

and so was the GM. Ray Malavasi was hardly inspiring, either. To be frank, I was so disgusted with the Rams as well as the debacle that was the Raiders tenure in L.A. that I stopped watching pro football entirely. When they finally left, my attitude was, "good riddance. Now we can be a baseball town again."

I also hated what the Rams did to Anaheim Stadium, completely enclosing it and making it seem a lot less inviting. When I was in high school in the 1970's and the mood struck me, I would climb up the trees behind the centerfield fence and taken in a game every now and again. It was such a nice, neat and friendly park then. Saw some great concerts there, too, before the Rams moved in.
Madam Ram.

How about when Ray Malavasi fell asleep during a live radio interview?

Jim Healy was absolutely hysterical. "Jim Healy, that's your low-est shot evah"

Jim Healy Tribute Site
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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I think there are absolutely way too many people in Southern Ca. It takes 2-3 hours to get to a 10-mile location most of the time. Even at night... My step-kids and several friends live there and they hate it. They continually tell me that it is getting worse with each passing year.

Finding a job is another problem. Jobs are hard to come by everywhere but read the statistics on California. The state is in a heap of trouble financially.

There are gangs and bad neighborhoods everywhere. You can be in a nice neighborhood and drive a half mile down the street and you will be in a bad neighborhood. For example, at the beginning of my marriage my husband and I lived in a really nice apartment. One night while we were sitting on the patio we heard gunshot. My husband ran down the street to try and help. A teenage boy was dead in the street as a result of a drive by shooting. It is very hard to find a decent place to live unless you are making a huge amount of money.

So again this is my suggestion. If you have to move there do your homework, talk to a lot of people and weigh your options carefully. If you are rich move to a beach house in Malibu, Laguna Beach, Newport, etc. Stay on the beach and don't venture too far inland. Also, there are very nice places along the coast just south of Irvine and nice places in Irvine and Costa Mesa, but then again you will be paying a high price to live there.

And also, home school your children or put them in the best private school you can find... again if you can afford it. Between the gangs and all the other problems it just wasn't worth it to me.

lol, what you posted pretty much sums up how many people feel about SoCal and I find that internet forums offers a way for people to debrief themselves and truly be heard unlike calling Mrs. Boxer or Mrs. Pelosi which does nothing.


However, one disagreement I have is that sports teams should be the least of our worries! What needs to be addressed is getting rid of gangs and having good jobs available for the youth.


As far as bad neighborhoods you are exactly right in that you can be in one neighborhood that's nice and then just 5 min away it looks like you are in a 3 world country. For example, the Pomona and Diamond Bar/Walnut border.


Anyhow, if you want to see the end of the story to California early all you haft to do is look at the birth rates and see who is replacing the California population. So for me, due to the fact that I don't speak Spanish and due to the fact that I don't think it's wise to live in a nice neighborhood surrounded by poor neighborhoods was just two reasons out of many others as to why I cashed in my chips and got out of that state.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK to SoCal to Missoula, MT
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Pretty fair assessment given by the OP. Not a great place to be unless you are rich, like crowds, don't mind endless concrete and so on. There are certain pluses to living here, but for ME, they far outweigh the negatives. Cost of living and incomes are severely out of line. A lot of times, one can actually make MORE living elsewhere, of course there are certain exceptions to this (nurses for example) but the majority of jobs do not pay very well here.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Fair statements, true in fact to a large degree, for most people in OC. But you will NEVER hear anyone say these things to your face...everyone here wears a mask and an "I'm too busy" sign.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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Smile No actually at the time I lived in Yorba Linda and the store was Albertsons right down off the 91!!

I remember it as if it were just yesterday. I couldn't find an item and couldn't find anyone to help me because they all kept shaking their heads sayins no comprende??? I was really upset and left. Also, I did make the error about the rams relocation city. Never really followed them after their move because of my disappointment. My husband and I were avid Rams fans and it was sad to say the least when they left. Anyway, my point is.. it seems like no matter what the issue is there is always something going on in Southern Cal. Whether its the cost of living, the football, the gangs, whatever... Too much drama for me. Thanks for sharing..


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The reason that the Rams didn't sell well in Anaheim is that they STUNK. The owner, Georgia Frontiere, was a complete moron (I used to love how Jim Healy would carve her up on his radio show) and so was the GM. Ray Malavasi was hardly inspiring, either. To be frank, I was so disgusted with the Rams as well as the debacle that was the Raiders tenure in L.A. that I stopped watching pro football entirely. When they finally left, my attitude was, "good riddance. Now we can be a baseball town again."

I also hated what the Rams did to Anaheim Stadium, completely enclosing it and making it seem a lot less inviting. When I was in high school in the 1970's and the mood struck me, I would climb up the trees behind the centerfield fence and taken in a game every now and again. It was such a nice, neat and friendly park then. Saw some great concerts there, too, before the Rams moved in.

Also, you said you lived in Irvine and Anaheim Hills and your neighbors didn't speak english? I lived in AH for a time and hispanics weren't exactly plentiful there and neither do they have much of a presence in Irvine. So it sounds like you moved to either downtown Anaheim or Santa Ana at some point.
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