Santa Ana?? (Garden Grove, Irvine, Westminster: apartment, low crime, house)

[newportbeachsmostwanted]

Originally Posted by northcountystooge

<<Because of Santa Ana's Location,that city has Enormous Potential and could be transformed into another Irvine.>>

OK, Santa Ana def. has issues but why would you want another Irvine?

Irvine ranks top in America in income, safety, and stress-free living in numerous respectable studies. That's quite a feat considering a city of almost 200,000 residents. Try doing that in Rhose Island, or rich Massachusetts. Yeah right! This city is a jewel in the rough, vandalized, gangland otherwise known as, Southern California.

How did you develop a hate for Irvine? I doubt you ever lived there.

[RAMFEB31]

Shame on you people in badmouthing S.A. Like most older cities, Santa Ana have good areas and bad areas. Yes, the inner city is bad in most respects. But the some outlying areas like the hills are in the S.A. Some of the south areas are still good. It is true some the schools are not the best but still competitive in the better areas. U just have to be selective. Look at Anaheim. Some of newer outer areas can be compared to Irvine in many respects.

[newportbeachsmostwanted]

Originally Posted by RAMFEB31

Shame on you people in badmouthing S.A. Like most older cities, Santa Ana have good areas and bad areas. Yes, the inner city is bad in most respects. But the some outlying areas like the hills are in the S.A. Some of the south areas are still good. It is true some the schools are not the best but still competitive in the better areas. U just have to be selective. Look at Anaheim. Some of newer outer areas can be compared to Irvine in many respects.

Do you think I've never been to the city? Santa Ana has some great neighborhoods. However, just because it has a few good areas that does NOT make it a good city. A good city is based on numerous factors including how it compares to cities nearby. The government is rotten, mislead, and currupt.

[EscapeCalifornia]

LOL at comparing any part of Santa Ana to Irvine. The hills you refer to are unincorporated Orange County and have nothing in common with Santa Ana except for having a Santa Ana mailing address. The only part of SA that's even passable are those old houses hidden off of Memory Lane but the kiss of death there is that anyone buying there would have to send their kids to SA schools where nobody speaks English.

[Caliguy2007]

You gotta be kidding if you think i'm gonna say something positive about a city that has High Crime,Gangs and Graffitti.

Originally Posted by RAMFEB31

Shame on you people in badmouthing S.A. Like most older cities, Santa Ana have good areas and bad areas. Yes, the inner city is bad in most respects. But the some outlying areas like the hills are in the S.A. Some of the south areas are still good. It is true some the schools are not the best but still competitive in the better areas. U just have to be selective. Look at Anaheim. Some of newer outer areas can be compared to Irvine in many respects.

[RAMFEB31]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2007

You gotta be kidding if you think i'm gonna say something positive about a city that has High Crime,Gangs and Graffitti.

If I was a new O.C. person reading about that former Laker creating a stink in that nice expensive little town, taken in isolation, I may think twice before moving into that town. Again, condemming an entire town in general is, in my humble opinion, is not the best statement. Yes, many of us are all wise O.C. ian who have live here for many years, some of us over 1/2 a century. Most of us been thru all the cities including S.A. U are right, Even if I was a Hispanic I would think twice before living in the core of S.A. or in the core of Anaheim or the core of Orange or of many highly rated cities. But, again, there are something good about any city. However, I am leaving all your "fine" O.C. cities. U may have noted, in some of my threads, I am moving to Alaska. Leaving behind, your great weather, your great expensive homes, your great music center. I sure will miss the great overflowing freeway system w/all the cars.

[northcountystooge]

Originally Posted by newportbeachsmostwanted

Irvine ranks top in America in income, safety, and stress-free living in numerous respectable studies. That's quite a feat considering a city of almost 200,000 residents. Try doing that in Rhose Island, or rich Massachusetts. Yeah right! This city is a jewel in the rough, vandalized, gangland otherwise known as, Southern California.

How did you develop a hate for Irvine? I doubt you ever lived there.

You said hate, not me.

Why would I want to live in master-planned bland? I interned and strung for the OC Weekly. I'm not allowed to like that place. Growing up, Irvine and "cool" never were a match. I like real cities, ones with downtowns. Remind me where Irvine's Main Street is?

And what is so automatically admirable about being tops in income? And if I may generalize - because I am not familiar with such numerous studies - what is so stress-free about making all that dough, working long hours to outdo your neighbor's purchase of a BMW 3-class? Luckily, if you plan your town just so, all those lower-class twits that you need for your capitalism to sufficiently enrich you get to live in places such as Santa Ana, Garbage Grove and Westminster. (Or South America and China.)

[dtran103]

These comments about Santa Ana is a huge exaggeration. It's still Orange County for freak's sake, which is generally pretty safe. You ever hear about drive-by gang shootings in Santa Ana? No. The murder rate in SA is 1/2 the national average. It may be a little run-down, but the most "dangerous" city in Orange County would be considered a typical "safe" city in Los Angeles.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by dtran103

but the most "dangerous" city in Orange County would be considered a typical "safe" city in Los Angeles.

You're probably right about that but its only because most of LA is such crap that SA looks ok in comparison. You can have your illegal alien heaven that doesn't enforce occupancy limits or littering laws. I'll live elsewhere.

[irma405]

Santa Ana is a city that's come a long way in a short tiime. I feel sad that people feel unsafe driving or considering living here. Yeah apparently there are 75% hispanics living here, but we have a good "spread" also of African -Americans and Asian Americans, and Caucasians. I've lived here 40 years and very seldom see "cholos" anymore, and the ones I do see, seem to mind their own business. I do see alot of skaters, and we've got one of the largest skate parts in O.C. There are so many misconceptions of Sant Ana. I had the opportunity to work as a visiting nurse for 5 years. I'lll tell you Orange has really "ghetto" areas, such as Garden Grove, Anaheim (right by Disneyland, it's like L.A)-San Clemente, Buena Park, Irvine has some "crappy housing" Mission Viejo and Lake Forest have some crummy areas going on, and so does Westminster. I had the opportunity to feel unsafe in alot of the areas above, and not just Santa Ana. I think that some comments of the city that are made by people are "passe" As John Stossell would say "give me a break".