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Old 12-03-2010, 12:15 AM
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I do think German heritage is quite common on most of the West, but only slightly above Irish, and people have intermarried so much it really is no longer clear. Kind of a bum rap for the German-American folks, most of them came here nearly a century before the Nazi a$$holes made German a four letter word. But still noone is likely to say "kiss me, I'm German!" Not sure what the origin of people is down here in Ashland, but the darn town is overrun with good looking, big blond kids. It's like the "Sound of Music" or something. I would guess many are of German, Dutch, English, or Scandinavian extraction, but mostly they are Californian expats whose parents rode the equity tsunami into town. Where they came from before that, I have no clue!

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Old 12-03-2010, 12:31 AM
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Originally Posted by Rob Allen View Post
You mean the Atlantic Archipelago?

Dictionary - Definition of Atlantic Archipelago

Atlantic Archipelago? I like it. The damn Brits have gotten too much air time for the last 400 years or so. The Irish have centuries of reasons to not want to be lumped with the Brits. Also, another thing I hate is the term "Anglo-Saxon" as if one Germanic tribe were not enough (and if butt-kicking is all that counts, what about the Romans, Danes, and Normans!). Truth be told anywhere in the Archipelago has been a mixture or Celtic and Germanic influences for at least a millenium. And they are really mostly hispanic anyway! Apparently the original megalithic inhabitants of the Isles who gave the fair skin, freckles, and weakness for alcohol came north from coastal Spain long. long before the Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, Norwegians,etc. arrived. They are all just touch up paint on the base coat. It is true all the groups that left a linguistic heritage were Celtic (of several tribes) or Germanic (of several tribes), but their common origin is much deeper. Although it too is inaccurate, I would much prefer the term Anglo-Celtic, which would rightly describe the tremendous influence of those two cultural traditions in recent centuries. Scotland, Ireland, and Wales have some serious cultural mojo and have for centuries. All this uber Germanic stuff is harkens back to 19th century racist justifications for treating the non-English like crap. I think the Isles have dominated the world culture of the last 400 years so precisely because of the cultural hybrid vigor of those great cultures. So, I repeat, Anglo-Celtic, though Afro-Celtic makes for better music and HispanoCeltoRomanoAngloSaxoDanoDalradioNorwegian might be more accurate!

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:24 PM
Location: the Beaver State
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Oregon grew (and continues to grow) on word of mouth. Thus we've been inundated with waves of residents from one ethnic group or another as newcomers wrote home and got their families and friends to come join them.

It's even harder to track down because this happened in micro areas. For instance, Lake County was heavily hit with Irish Sheep herders in the 1870-1900 time period.

But in that same time period Columbia County was second generation Maine settlers who came from Norway before that.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:51 PM
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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There was a big influx of Basque sheep herders into the Jordan Valley area after 1900. There was also a big wave of immigrants from the Great Lakes region after they cut down all their forests. That was a mixed group, but had a heavy Scandinavian component.

Southern Oregon was a big destination for southerners who had been carpetbagged out of their land after the Civil War. That's how the KKK came to dominate state politics for so long. Most of those immigrants were pretty uniformly of English ancestry.

Oregon is still very uniformly white. Exclusion laws did not start to break down until WWII brought black workers into the shipyards in Portland. Even in the 1950s, I remember a Chinese man who wasn't allowed to live or own property inside the city limits of McMinnville.
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Old 12-11-2010, 02:24 PM
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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There is at least one Scot celebrating Christmas in Portland:

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Old 12-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Location: Corvallis, Oregon
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HAH Karlsch

My surname is Scottish and I love Oregon.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:42 PM
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Me: English from before the Civil War - covered wagon variety, Norwegian (2nd generation) with some German (via PA mid 1800s).
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