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Old 06-16-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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If I had your concerns, I would go for Vancouver WA. You will have the advantage of no income tax, and can run across the bridge to Portland for shopping with no sales tax. Property taxes will be a little higher but you'll still come out ahead. Personally, I'd use a lot of different criteria to determine where to live, taxes would be a minor consideration.
I know that many people do that. But I do not want to live in or near Portland or Seattle. I want to live in a smaller town of about 10,000-100,000 people.

I've had enough of the urban city life, i'm trying to escape from it. I'm living in one of the biggest metropolises on Earth right now with about 25 million people, and it's taught me that city living is NOT for me. I can't wait to get back to a slow-paced lifestyle.

Thanks for the suggestion though. If I was gonna live in Portland i'd probably do just what you said.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:22 PM
 
Location: State of Jefferson coast
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No. What makes you think that?
This kind of penny-pinching philosophy is common in the Midwest. It's the home of what I call Good Deal Culture, and your use of the term "better deal" is evocative of what you hear there on a daily basis. My Dad used to drive halfway across Des Moines to save a penny a gallon on a tankful of gas. For many Midwesterners (Minnesotans and Iowans in particular), finding "the best deal" is almost an obsessive-compulsive preoccupation that subverts overall livability and enjoyment considerations.

P.S. Have you ever been to Portland? You can live in Portland without living in "a big city." You just have to choose the right neighborhood.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:27 PM
 
Location: State of Jefferson coast
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I want a liberal, small to medium sized city....
I want to live in a low tax, libertarian-style governance type of place preferably.
Either you have a split personality or somewhere in the middle of your post you must have had a stroke. Nothing could be farther from liberalism than libertarianism.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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This kind of penny-pinching philosophy is common in the Midwest. It's the home of what I call Good Deal Culture, and your use of the term "better deal" is evocative of what you hear there on a daily basis. My Dad used to drive halfway across Des Moines to save a penny a gallon on a tankful of gas. For many Midwesterners (Minnesotans and Iowans in particular), finding "the best deal" is almost an obsessive-compulsive preoccupation that subverts overall livability and enjoyment considerations.
Nope. I just don't like to throw my money away.

I've been living in Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan for the past 5 years. In all of these countries I paid low taxes and never got screwed out of large sums of money, I've gotten used to it. Never paid more than about 3% income tax in any of these places.

Being able to keep all the money you earn is a great thing.

You seem to think "penny-pinching" is a bad thing? I don't really understand that. If I work for my money I want to keep it. Seems like a reasonable philosophy to me.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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Either you have a split personality or somewhere in the middle of your post you must have had a stroke. Nothing could be farther from liberalism than libertarianism.
Social-liberal, economic-Libertarian...... is it confusing?
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:15 PM
 
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So you want to cheat on taxes? You might find that easier to do overseas.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:32 PM
 
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So you want to cheat on taxes? You might find that easier to do overseas.
I would hardly call it "cheating". I think you're being a bit dramatic there.

I'm just in a position where I can move anywhere, so why not choose a place where I pay low taxes? And if i'm living in a state that charges sales tax, then i'm paying taxes every time I purchase things anyway.

I lived most of my life in high tax states and i've paid into the system heavily, only to see most of my tax dollars wasted on mismanagement and corruption. Lots of our tax dollars are literally pocketed by politicians and other highly connected individuals.

I'm just a guy trying to make it in this world and survive, trying to save enough money to buy land and maybe start a family, have enough money to be covered in amedical emergency. And that means I need to watch my money. That's the way of the world.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: New England
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Resurrecting this thread from June! I'm interesting in hearing more about what you guys think of cost of living Oregon vs. Washington. I'm making a big move with my husband this year from a large city - we're 2 working people with Bachelor degrees, currently not doing so well in the NE. As my hubby's in Forestry, we're starting to see a pattern where forest jobs are located mostly on the west coast.

Add to that the promise of lower cost of living, lower taxes (?), better quality of life, less congestion, etc. However, the unemployment rates are quite high for both states, I'm seeing Oregon at 9.4 and Washington at 9.2 for June '11).

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I would hardly call it "cheating". I think you're being a bit dramatic there.

I'm just in a position where I can move anywhere, so why not choose a place where I pay low taxes? And if i'm living in a state that charges sales tax, then i'm paying taxes every time I purchase things anyway.

I lived most of my life in high tax states and i've paid into the system heavily, only to see most of my tax dollars wasted on mismanagement and corruption. Lots of our tax dollars are literally pocketed by politicians and other highly connected individuals.

I'm just a guy trying to make it in this world and survive, trying to save enough money to buy land and maybe start a family, have enough money to be covered in amedical emergency. And that means I need to watch my money. That's the way of the world.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Resurrecting this thread from June! I'm interesting in hearing more about what you guys think of cost of living Oregon vs. Washington. I'm making a big move with my husband this year from a large city - we're 2 working people with Bachelor degrees, currently not doing so well in the NE. As my hubby's in Forestry, we're starting to see a pattern where forest jobs are located mostly on the west coast.

Add to that the promise of lower cost of living, lower taxes (?), better quality of life, less congestion, etc. However, the unemployment rates are quite high for both states, I'm seeing Oregon at 9.4 and Washington at 9.2 for June '11).
You really need to focus on job opportunities in your skill set, not the overall unemployment rates.

I have lived in both states and conclude that for a given standard of living and community services there is little difference in the cost of living between Oregon and Washington. Generally speaking the cost of housing in the Seattle urban area is higher than Portland and for many that is a huge piece of the family budget... but I doubt that there are many forester jobs in either community.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Based merely on the fact that I know two people with bachelors degrees in forestry, who both moved to Oregon and could not find a job, and now work in IT, I believe you're going to have a bit of a hard time finding positions. Oregon Department of Forestry Oregon Department of Forestry is Oregon State's Forestry Job Site.

if you look there, the forestry department has four job openings, one in IT, two assistant park rangers and one environmental engineer.

Forestry and Natural Resources Jobs Listing | jobs.forestry.uga.edu

Logging and forestry jobs - B.C., USA & Canada

Are a couple of other resources. Good luck, and get the job first before moving here.
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