Is Grants Pass "odd"? (Medford, Roseburg: lawyers, employment, buy)

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by freedom

Thanks Waterlilly,

The last rate I remembered was during the housing boom 2 yrs ago and it was as low as 4.5%, which they term as full employment at anything under 5%

freedom

For the record, I posted the unemployment rate for "Grants Pass," and not the entire county.

[J&Gin Newport]

Please read the information I filled in for you, and please know that I dont want to create harm but take a good look, you might want to look in Ashland, Oregon
Good Luck!

Originally Posted by TribalCat

I was reading a thread about Southern Oregon (I've forgotten which one), and the poster was talking about the different towns. He wrote that Grants Pass was "odd". Is it?

Here's my little list of odd questions:Yes it is odd

Is it a liberal town? Not really

Are they tolerant of different spiritual traditions? yes..not alot there

Are there any health food stores there? yes

Is there a market for alternative medicine in GP? yes but is there any last I knew not

What's going on with the closing of public libraries in that area? That seems scary to me. $$$$$$$$$$ and the lack of it

Does the temperature really reach 90 degrees, and for how long does it stay that high? Yes , and it can get much hotter than that, the weather is similar to Sacramento, California's weather!

Is it dog-friendly? Are there hiking trails that dogs, horses and bicycles are allowed on nearby?

Would it be hard to get around town on a bicycle? If you stayed in town theres a one way street in...and another out.

Does it stay green year-round? NO

In the winter, do the roads get very icy, and are they well maintained? yes, the roads are well cared for

Are there any local Country music stations? thats all there is and oldies

Is there a seedy part of town, or areas that should be avoided? its all seedy smile

Is a lot of new construction being built green? some not really

What is the terrain like? Is GP on the bottom of a valley or in the foothills, how close are the mountains, how forested is it? mountains GP in town is flat

What kind of wildlife could I see there? deer, squirrels, fish lots ofum
Good Luck..you might want to look at a Bigger area!

I'll probably have more questions later

[missthecountry]

I have been reading all the comments about the pros and cons of the closures of the Oregon libraries due to lack of adequate funding. Comments ranged from "only Mexicans and the poverty stricken" use them to the statement of one writer that their family read more than 60 books in a year and none of them came from a library.

Libraries are not just for the impoverished and are a necessity for anyone who might want to have access to all types of literature from magazines and periodical to encyclopedia and books. In addition, they are a source for music, videos, and provide a source for inspiration to children everywhere who feel excitment at the ownership of their first library card or who learn the art of discipline necessary in the quiet of a library.

Who among us avid readers did not participate in a library organized reading contest as a child?....and yes, there are many who do not have the budget to purchase books in a bookstore. At $20.00 average per book, if a person only reads 4 books a month, the average family of four would be spending almost $5,000 a year on reading materials. That's not always feasible.

It is much more realistic to think that our ability to make use of public libaries fuels our knowledge and broadens our horizons of learning.

I know that in this age of technology, the internet is also a wonderful source of information. It is simpler to find certain things on the internet. The impersonal nature of the computer can never replace the opportunity to sit and read with a child who has brought home a book that sparked their interested during a search through the shelves of a library!

[landersjack]

Try looking in to Ashland, it's a lovely place. Healthy lifestyle and great location. Grants Pass and Medford our not as nice!

[AtomicSilicon]

Ashland is a great place. However, be warned that it has gotten very expensive compared to the other towns. Then again, often like expensive things - it is nicer.

Also, currently there is a bit of a exodus in the population age range from 25 to around 40ish. Most people moving here are retirees (so if your in that age group, there will be lots of friends and peers to meet). If you need to actually work for a living though, the reason most people leave is that there are not enough high-paying jobs to support the dis-proportionate living costs here.

I live in Ashland, I love Ashland, but my wife and I are going to move this spring. We were saying, heck, maybe we will move back to retire, haha.

[Culture_Withdrawal]

Originally Posted by John Cova

All the public libraries in Grants Pass and the county are closed. Does that give you a clue about the area.

YES!!! My wife and I were duped by websites like City of Grants Pass : Home and http://www.visitgrantspass.org. Which, from their background image, seems to be run by the same people. Moving here was the biggest mistake of my life! We moved here thinking this would be a perfect location to raise a child…boy, were we dead wrong! We got here and the first thing we learned was there was no library. After a few trips to town, the reason was obvious. Do people read books in this town? Apparently, the good-ole-boys who run this town don’t. Three of the four libraries throughout this backwards county were closed due to lack of county funding. There is obviously no shortage of food, however. I’ve never seen so many fat and disgusting people in one town in my life! Everyone looks dejected here…like they are waiting for Death to knock on their door and save them from their miserable life. I never thought I’d see so many homes for sale in such a small town! Obviously, people who are smart enough get out are doing just that.

Don’t get me wrong, the scenery is beautiful and on the surface, Grants Pass seems like Mayberry. If you set your camera in the right place, you can actually make this town appear attractive. It’s great as long as you don’t point your cameras at the poverty stricken, illiterate drifters begging for money, or the unemployed/unemployable meth attics and teenage single mothers hanging out at the post office, or the shacks that so many people call home here. The river is pretty…pretty loud! Boatnik may take place just once a year, but they practice for this event all Spring by speeding up and down the river in jet boats. This not only wastes expensive gas, but offers noise pollution to the area. For a town that seems to care about the environment, or so they would like you to think, pollution levels here are worse than the very large city from which I came! I cannot even begin to touch upon the fact that my wife can hardly breathe due to the pollution in the area.

It seems to me as though those who run this town are more interested in how the town appears to people passing through in a day than those who choose to make this their home. Grants Pass looks great if you are on your way from I-5 to the coast and stop here for coffee or buy a chachki from one of the useless and extremely overpriced, yet attractive stores on the main strip. Stay here longer than a weekend and you are in for a shotgun blast of truth that will upset every one of your senses. The gap between classes is big enough to drive a logging truck through.

From what I’ve witnessed, nothing gets done around here. If a storm blows down a tree across the road, you better own a chainsaw or find another way to get where you are going. If your house is being robbed by a methamphetamine aficionado to support their daily habit - don’t call 911 - you better own a gun! There is a Starbucks coming here but it’s been two years since they decided to open and protests have crippled any chance of it opening any time soon (they charged for bottled water back in 2001 and the people of this great town have protested ever since). Never mind that substantial economic boost such a large corporate entity could offer the city and county. The people here ignore the fact that such an improvement in the town would not only create great jobs (Starbucks offers medial and dental insurance for part time and full time employees that rivals many larger corporations), but bring a huge amount of revenue to this severely cash strapped part of the state.

However, if you like coffee, you don’t have to look far; there seems to be a Dutch Brothers on every single corner of this wretched town. Hypocrites abound here, little do the townspeople know that Dutch Brothers is a chain store, run in similar fashion as the Moderator cut: Libelous comments not permitted Starbucks (it is just a smaller chain, but a chain all the same). Except, it does not offer insurance and is cheaper to run and, if you have a hundred thousand bucks you can own your very own piece of mediocrity. Even people on welfare and disability drink Dutch Brothers here, which is ironic because not being able to afford food or baby formula doesn’t matter when there are 40 coffee shops in the county.

It’s fine to take your coffee black, just as long as you aren’t. It is not rare to see vehicles adorned with stickers of the Rebel flag with words like “Fear This” beneath it. I was not surprised when I read that Grants Pass (even in the 1960s) was the last town in Oregon that maintained a Sundown Law.

If you like cheap beer, playing in the mud, 16-year olds with babies, paying for coffee with your disability or welfare, smoking meth, looking at unhealthy and overweight people with no teeth, a good-ole-boy mentality, illiterate fundamentalist Christians, religious intolerance, working in retail, Republicans, transients, little or no middle class, zero nightlife, hillbillies, domestic violence, pollution, conservative politics, a 9.2% unemployment rate, racist people, no affordable housing in a civilized area, and bad food – you will love Grants Pass, Oregon! Don’t even think twice if you have a child. I am aghast at the idea of allowing my child to socialize with 99.9% of the people in this town. He has been taught the heralds of acceptance and culture. He would be an outcast here. God forbid, if you are a minority and/or someone with a three-digit IQ, do yourself a favor and look elsewhere for a place to call home!!! We will be moving as soon as possible and will never look back. Please, do not move here if you have any common sense or are under the age of 70.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Culture_Withdrawal

YES!!! My wife and I were duped by websites like City of Grants Pass : Home and http://www.visitgrantspass.org. Which, from their background image, seems to be run by the same people. Moving here was the biggest mistake of my life! We moved here thinking this would be a perfect location to raise a child…boy, were we dead wrong! We got here and the first thing we learned was there was no library. After a few trips to town, the reason was obvious. Do people read books in this town? Apparently, the good-ole-boys who run this town don’t. Three of the four libraries throughout this backwards county were closed due to lack of county funding. There is obviously no shortage of food, however. I’ve never seen so many fat and disgusting people in one town in my life! Everyone looks dejected here…like they are waiting for Death to knock on their door and save them from their miserable life. I never thought I’d see so many homes for sale in such a small town! Obviously, people who are smart enough get out are doing just that.

Don’t get me wrong, the scenery is beautiful and on the surface, Grants Pass seems like Mayberry. If you set your camera in the right place, you can actually make this town appear attractive. It’s great as long as you don’t point your cameras at the poverty stricken, illiterate drifters begging for money, or the unemployed/unemployable meth attics and teenage single mothers hanging out at the post office, or the shacks that so many people call home here. The river is pretty…pretty loud! Boatnik may take place just once a year, but they practice for this event all Spring by speeding up and down the river in jet boats. This not only wastes expensive gas, but offers noise pollution to the area. For a town that seems to care about the environment, or so they would like you to think, pollution levels here are worse than the very large city from which I came! I cannot even begin to touch upon the fact that my wife can hardly breathe due to the pollution in the area.

It seems to me as though those who run this town are more interested in how the town appears to people passing through in a day than those who choose to make this their home. Grants Pass looks great if you are on your way from I-5 to the coast and stop here for coffee or buy a chachki from one of the useless and extremely overpriced, yet attractive stores on the main strip. Stay here longer than a weekend and you are in for a shotgun blast of truth that will upset every one of your senses. The gap between classes is big enough to drive a logging truck through.

From what I’ve witnessed, nothing gets done around here. If a storm blows down a tree across the road, you better own a chainsaw or find another way to get where you are going. If your house is being robbed by a methamphetamine aficionado to support their daily habit - don’t call 911 - you better own a gun! There is a Starbucks coming here but it’s been two years since they decided to open and protests have crippled any chance of it opening any time soon (they charged for bottled water back in 2001 and the people of this great town have protested ever since). Never mind that substantial economic boost such a large corporate entity could offer the city and county. The people here ignore the fact that such an improvement in the town would not only create great jobs (Starbucks offers medial and dental insurance for part time and full time employees that rivals many larger corporations), but bring a huge amount of revenue to this severely cash strapped part of the state.

However, if you like coffee, you don’t have to look far; there seems to be a Dutch Brothers on every single corner of this wretched town. Hypocrites abound here, little do the townspeople know that Dutch Brothers is a chain store, run in similar fashion as the evil Starbucks (it is just a smaller chain, but a chain all the same). Except, it does not offer insurance and is cheaper to run and, if you have a hundred thousand bucks you can own your very own piece of mediocrity. Even people on welfare and disability drink Dutch Brothers here, which is ironic because not being able to afford food or baby formula doesn’t matter when there are 40 coffee shops in the county.

It’s fine to take your coffee black, just as long as you aren’t. It is not rare to see vehicles adorned with stickers of the Rebel flag with words like “Fear This” beneath it. I was not surprised when I read that Grants Pass (even in the 1960s) was the last town in Oregon that maintained a Sundown Law.

If you like cheap beer, playing in the mud, 16-year olds with babies, paying for coffee with your disability or welfare, smoking meth, looking at unhealthy and overweight people with no teeth, a good-ole-boy mentality, illiterate fundamentalist Christians, religious intolerance, working in retail, Republicans, transients, little or no middle class, zero nightlife, hillbillies, domestic violence, pollution, conservative politics, a 9.2% unemployment rate, racist people, no affordable housing in a civilized area, and bad food – you will love Grants Pass, Oregon! Don’t even think twice if you have a child. I am aghast at the idea of allowing my child to socialize with 99.9% of the people in this town. He has been taught the heralds of acceptance and culture. He would be an outcast here. God forbid, if you are a minority and/or someone with a three-digit IQ, do yourself a favor and look elsewhere for a place to call home!!! We will be moving as soon as possible and will never look back. Please, do not move here if you have any common sense or are under the age of 70.

People see other people in terms of themselves.

freedom

[Culture_Withdrawal]

Originally Posted by freedom

People see other people in terms of themselves.

freedom

That sounds like something your grandfather would say.

I've lived all over the country and Grants Pass is by far, the worst place I've ever lived.

[illinoisboy]

Originally Posted by Culture_Withdrawal

YES!!! My wife and I were duped by websites like City of Grants Pass : Home and http://www.visitgrantspass.org. Which, from their background image, seems to be run by the same people. Moving here was the biggest mistake of my life! We moved here thinking this would be a perfect location to raise a child…boy, were we dead wrong! We got here and the first thing we learned was there was no library. After a few trips to town, the reason was obvious. Do people read books in this town? Apparently, the good-ole-boys who run this town don’t. Three of the four libraries throughout this backwards county were closed due to lack of county funding. There is obviously no shortage of food, however. I’ve never seen so many fat and disgusting people in one town in my life! Everyone looks dejected here…like they are waiting for Death to knock on their door and save them from their miserable life. I never thought I’d see so many homes for sale in such a small town! Obviously, people who are smart enough get out are doing just that.

Don’t get me wrong, the scenery is beautiful and on the surface, Grants Pass seems like Mayberry. If you set your camera in the right place, you can actually make this town appear attractive. It’s great as long as you don’t point your cameras at the poverty stricken, illiterate drifters begging for money, or the unemployed/unemployable meth attics and teenage single mothers hanging out at the post office, or the shacks that so many people call home here. The river is pretty…pretty loud! Boatnik may take place just once a year, but they practice for this event all Spring by speeding up and down the river in jet boats. This not only wastes expensive gas, but offers noise pollution to the area. For a town that seems to care about the environment, or so they would like you to think, pollution levels here are worse than the very large city from which I came! I cannot even begin to touch upon the fact that my wife can hardly breathe due to the pollution in the area.

It seems to me as though those who run this town are more interested in how the town appears to people passing through in a day than those who choose to make this their home. Grants Pass looks great if you are on your way from I-5 to the coast and stop here for coffee or buy a chachki from one of the useless and extremely overpriced, yet attractive stores on the main strip. Stay here longer than a weekend and you are in for a shotgun blast of truth that will upset every one of your senses. The gap between classes is big enough to drive a logging truck through.

From what I’ve witnessed, nothing gets done around here. If a storm blows down a tree across the road, you better own a chainsaw or find another way to get where you are going. If your house is being robbed by a methamphetamine aficionado to support their daily habit - don’t call 911 - you better own a gun! There is a Starbucks coming here but it’s been two years since they decided to open and protests have crippled any chance of it opening any time soon (they charged for bottled water back in 2001 and the people of this great town have protested ever since). Never mind that substantial economic boost such a large corporate entity could offer the city and county. The people here ignore the fact that such an improvement in the town would not only create great jobs (Starbucks offers medial and dental insurance for part time and full time employees that rivals many larger corporations), but bring a huge amount of revenue to this severely cash strapped part of the state.

However, if you like coffee, you don’t have to look far; there seems to be a Dutch Brothers on every single corner of this wretched town. Hypocrites abound here, little do the townspeople know that Dutch Brothers is a chain store, run in similar fashion as the evil Starbucks (it is just a smaller chain, but a chain all the same). Except, it does not offer insurance and is cheaper to run and, if you have a hundred thousand bucks you can own your very own piece of mediocrity. Even people on welfare and disability drink Dutch Brothers here, which is ironic because not being able to afford food or baby formula doesn’t matter when there are 40 coffee shops in the county.

It’s fine to take your coffee black, just as long as you aren’t. It is not rare to see vehicles adorned with stickers of the Rebel flag with words like “Fear This” beneath it. I was not surprised when I read that Grants Pass (even in the 1960s) was the last town in Oregon that maintained a Sundown Law.

If you like cheap beer, playing in the mud, 16-year olds with babies, paying for coffee with your disability or welfare, smoking meth, looking at unhealthy and overweight people with no teeth, a good-ole-boy mentality, illiterate fundamentalist Christians, religious intolerance, working in retail, Republicans, transients, little or no middle class, zero nightlife, hillbillies, domestic violence, pollution, conservative politics, a 9.2% unemployment rate, racist people, no affordable housing in a civilized area, and bad food – you will love Grants Pass, Oregon! Don’t even think twice if you have a child. I am aghast at the idea of allowing my child to socialize with 99.9% of the people in this town. He has been taught the heralds of acceptance and culture. He would be an outcast here. God forbid, if you are a minority and/or someone with a three-digit IQ, do yourself a favor and look elsewhere for a place to call home!!! We will be moving as soon as possible and will never look back. Please, do not move here if you have any common sense or are under the age of 70.

If you hate it that much, then you should probably just move.

[Culture_Withdrawal]

Originally Posted by illinoisboy

If you hate it that much, then you should probably just move.

Very true...I do and we are. I wouldn't dare raise my kid here.