What is the downside to living in Oregon? (Salem, Medford: lease, homeowners insurance)

[tenacity]

Originally Posted by jiffin4java

Where up there are you from? My husband was raised up in Georgetown above Placerville. We just moved from there and Pollock Pines a year ago for him to go to school in TX. I have to say, I'm really missing those trees and mountains. I hate the way they built those cookie cutter neighborhoods in El Dorado Hills and Elk Grove! My husband said in '98 when he left there for college those weren't there and he was really disappointed to see it when we moved there in '03. I'd love to be able to go back up towards Tahoe but the only FAA control towers are down in the valley...don't wanna go there.

I grew up in Orangevale, CA .. I also hate what they did to El Dorado Hills. My dad retired FAA.. His last location was Rancho Murrieta. They are in Kennewick, WA now. When I went home for High School renuion, I nearly got lost.

[tenacity]

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

To Tenacity:

I lived in southern Oregon for 3.5 years. The only forms of medical treatment people or doctors in the area recognize or recommend, are the traditional types.

I am familiar with the type of treatment you're talking about and was treated that way by a chiropractor in northern California.

In December of 04, I rolled my car twice, but thought I was just fine until 2 weeks later. I started experiencing pain starting in my upper right arm. Gradually it spread to my neck, shoulders, then my whole upper back, both arms, and upper chest.

I had no health insurance and had already signed off on my insurance claim, due to needing a replacement car. Finally after nearly a year, I went to a doctor who prescribed a pain med. It didn't help in the slightest.

I could tell it was muscular/nerve damage but do you think I could find "one" doctor in the area who did any kind of nerve stimulation? NO! Everyone thought I was nuts and referred to those treatments as a hippyish form of medicine.

Out of desperation I started going to a chiropracter in Grants Pass who repeatedly "cracked" me, but it never fully alleviated the problem.

I bought a TENS unit which helped quite a bit. I had 2 trigger points that obviously needed direct pressure.

"Finally" after several months I asked the doctor if he didn't do anything but crack patients. He didn't, but said he would do it for me, but it would really hurt. (I've never had pain involved in ANY direct pressure) He did do direct pressure after I requested it, but pressed WAY harder than necessary and wound up bruising my back terribly! However, after 2 more weeks of excruciating pain, it subsided.

I don't know why that area of the country is so backwards that they refuse to acknowledge alternative forms of treatments. It's nuts if you ask me.

A TENS unit is different from the Acuscope. the TENS blocks pain and contracts the muscle where the Acuscope repairs and you don't feel the treatment during the therapy.

[tenacity]

Originally Posted by elcapitan

jimg1126:

I am curious where you would like to move, if you plan on moving. I just want to get an idea what you think is ideal so I can determine how relevant your posts are.

I loved the view in Sisters and the trees and the greenery from Roseburg to Jacksonville. We will probably have to come up and stay for a week or so in different areas and see what is best. I'm understanding it's drier Roseburg south..which is better for me. An equestrian/livestock community on ground higher than the local rivers (no flooding for me) that has a 4-H and FFA/Grange Program that has fewer than 10,000 people.

[jiffin4java]

Originally Posted by tenacity

I grew up in Orangevale, CA .. I also hate what they did to El Dorado Hills. My dad retired FAA.. His last location was Rancho Murrieta. They are in Kennewick, WA now. When I went home for High School renuion, I nearly got lost.

Yeah, we've been in TX for the last year and a half. We'll be going through the area to visit family on our move up to Oregon in February (Lord willing). I'm almost afraid to see how much more it's grown!

[tenacity]

while you have only been in Texas a 1 1/2 yr. what threw me lat was the bridge across the American River.. that I didn't realize was there. the old bridge yes but not the new one. All the cookie cutter homes in El Dorado Hills.

I did like the new Trader Joes though.

Where abouts in Oregon are you moving?

[lag]

I had read about moving to Oregon and it is enough for me to no to move.
Thanks everyone for saving my life.

[jiffin4java]

Originally Posted by tenacity

while you have only been in Texas a 1 1/2 yr. what threw me lat was the bridge across the American River.. that I didn't realize was there. the old bridge yes but not the new one. All the cookie cutter homes in El Dorado Hills.

I did like the new Trader Joes though.

Where abouts in Oregon are you moving?

Which bridge? I'm having trouble picturing where you're talking about. Folsom has grown like crazy too.

We're either moving near Portland or Eugene, wherever the FAA needs an air traffic controller the most...assuming they allow him his first choice of Oregon. The need is so severe everywhere that I don't think we'll have a problem going where we want. It stinks that we can't go back home to CA. We're completely priced out, even as an air traffic controller. Paying his student loan and a mortgage we can afford is not realistic in CA. I'm really praying we can make OR home. We're so tired of moving around. (I was raised in MI, him in CA, met in college in FL, went back to MI to have son, to CA and had daughter, now in TX for atc school.)

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by tenacity

A TENS unit is different from the Acuscope. the TENS blocks pain and contracts the muscle where the Acuscope repairs and you don't feel the treatment during the therapy.

Yes I knew a TENS unit was different. I had a chiropractor in northern CA who specialized in patients with chronic pain. He used an Acuscope on me a few times. It works great!!!

[Kathy Richards]

I grew up in Portland and came to Southern California in my 20s. Doing the exact same job, I immediately was paid three times as much and there were many more jobs offers. Overnight I went from hopeless to secure and happy. Yes, it costs more to live down here but at least there are so many more opportunities. Oregon is depressing unless you are independently wealthy. I do miss Mt. Hood and Multnomah Falls but one thing that took my breath away after growing up in Portland was when I saw my first Rembrandt painting at one of the LA museums. Priceless. I met an old woman who goes back and forth constantly (Portland, Orange county). Says she can't make up her mind. I guess that will be me.

[goodgirl49]

Originally Posted by Kathy Richards

I grew up in Portland and came to Southern California in my 20s. Doing the exact same job, I immediately was paid three times as much and there were many more jobs offers. Overnight I went from hopeless to secure and happy. Yes, it costs more to live down here but at least there are so many more opportunities. Oregon is depressing unless you are independently wealthy. I do miss Mt. Hood and Multnomah Falls but one thing that took my breath away after growing up in Portland was when I saw my first Rembrandt painting at one of the LA museums. Priceless. I met an old woman who goes back and forth constantly (Portland, Orange county). Says she can't make up her mind. I guess that will be me.

I live in LA and read in the times this morning that the CA economy is going into recession now and jobs aren't being created quickly. Still, compared to Oregon there are lots more possibilities.