Maybe moving to Grants Pass area tired of Mexico!(Salinas,CA) (Portland: fit in, condo)
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I lived in Oregon for 21 years and will be returning when my wife retires. Now that we will both soon be retired, looking for employment will not be a consideration. With that said, we have been looking at the coast, which we think we think is a better place to visit than to live. I have researched Albany, Corvallis, Eugene, and Grants Pass. Initially, Albany was number one on my list, then it fell to Corvallis, and now it Grants Pass. That whole Rogue River area is just spectacular. There seems to be a lot of retirees living there, which is fine with us. The weather is warmer and it gets less rain than other parts of the state. The people who live there seem to love it. There is everything to do in the area if you like the great outdoors. Those that have left GP have regretted it. It is not too hard to find homes with some acres that have river and mountain views. No, they do not have a huge illegal alien problem. The people are friendly and honest as the day is long. Roseburg would be high on my list if I had not already lived there. I liked living in Roseburg better than Salem or Portland. Your radar is locked on to a really great city! You might want to look at the Grants Pass Daily Courier for local news. Here is a link:
Dang, what a wonderful description. Since one of my goals is not to move again when it is time to retire (not all that far off) this sounds worthy of more research. Thanks for the great info!
Originally Posted by Steve97415
Josephine County has always been the black sheep in Oregon's family of counties; it's nothing new. If anything, the situation is probably improving, though cyclical poverty and poor education still plague a large portion of the population. The city-data.com main site provides a lot of red flags, but you have to look carefully. The data show, for example, that Grants Pass is one of the best places to get ripped off in the western U.S.
Rats! Just when you think you have found a gem.
This relocation research can be very depressing...but thanks for the info. That is why we come here, eh?
Last edited by lorrwill; 09-20-2006 at 05:54 PM..
Reason: add info
This illegal alien invasion is very serious business that no one is taking very seriously. Even our lawmakers have no idea of what will happen as these people intend to elect themselves to office. No one seems to want to look much beyond the next election.
I could kiss you for this. This is the other major issue for me why CA is no longer a feasible place to live (cost of living is the top one).
I used to be so open toward other cultures and vehemently anti-racist but living in California it is hard to keep that attitude toward illegal Mexican immigrants when they really are not environmentally friendly, have many children when they are already at poverty level and living on welfare and change the face of every neighborhood. I live in a really cute little town with nice houses and a really friendly community of neighbors and we have seen a HUGE amount of illegal immigrants come in to live in our town and our only population growth has been hispanics. The town is more congested, crime has gone up and those beautiful homes that were once so full of character are now dead grass lots with lots of brightly colored childrens toys, clothing in the yard and peeling paint. The bus lines are more congested as well. This is only a small part of the reason I am moving to Oregon but you cannot deny that it is a problem. Everyone notices it and it's no longer a racist thing to state a very real truth. I have a lot of Mexican friends and they all agree with me. I have no problem with legal, educated Mexicans who can properly assimilate with this country's cultures... but I can't stand the ones who leave their own country only to turn California into another Mexico. I know Oregon is afraid of that happening with Californians coming and spreading into Oregon and not properly assimilating with Oregonian traditions. I recognize that and can assure Oregonians everywhere that I am very eager to recycle, hike, bicycle, give back to the community by volunteering in environmental efforts and other opportunities. I am just tired of California because I have a degree in Psychology and do not know Spanish and there are ZERO jobs in California that I can get with my degree unless I am fluent in Spanish. I am so sorry if this post sounded racist I am only writing what I experience and what EVERYONE else talks about. I'm also leaving California because I love nature, the people of Oregon, all the festivals Oregon has, how congested CA is, I love the Oregon weather (rain, "gloomy days" are my favorite) etc. But I do want the predominant language to be English where I live. Where I live now, it is not, or seems to not be.
Hi, I totally agree with you! But of course,I'll probably be called racist pig again and a KKK member which is SO wrong and not ME! but some people on this forum think that of me unfortunatley. What can you do?? At least the person who thought I should'nt be into 50's stuff was banned!! And these schools SHOULD celebrate and eduacate kids about OTHER cultures that have contributed to the growth and development of the United States! When I went to elementary school we had days where we learned about other countries and their cultures,it was FUN! One day I brought Irish shortbread cookies my mom made for Irish day,the next day was French day and a few other countries followed for the rest of the week. If you don't open kids eyes to the other cultures out there, they will think the Mexican culture is the only one that contributed to the growth of this country and when they become old enough to vote, most likely they will vote for whatever law is in favor for the hispanics,legal or not. Sorry to sound a bit "racist" there,but I feel that will happen.
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The last few posts are right on the money. And there is nothing "racist" about having an opinion, or speaking the truth. If anyone can tell me of a US city that has gotten better due to a large influx of Latinos, please tell me all about it, because I haven't seen one yet. And I've lived many places.
All of you have made some really good points about illegals to each other. But, what have you done to make our goverment see that this can not keep going on.
We must as citizens of the U.S.of A do something to make a difference get out and VOTE and write your congress.
California had better step up before its to late and Oregon I'm afraid its coming your way too. Its hit Idaho.
I currently live in Dallas, Texas and am planning a move to the Portland/Vancouver area. We have an extremely large non-legal immigrant population here driven by two factors. 1) There isn't enough economic opportunities in the poor rural areas of Mexico so there is a huge economic migration north to the States. 2) Businesses tend to look for the cheapest source of labor to exploit. Since slavery, child labor, unequal pay for differences in sex, age and "race" have been made illegal, a cheaper labor pool was needed. Manufacturing went to China, accounting,medical transcriptions and IT are going to India and manual labor and trades have gone to Mexicans living illegal in America. This is a perfect economic matchup.
It is not a perfect social matchup. Like West Germany absorbing East Germany, cheap labor brings social welfare costs and social discomfort. In Dallas, a city of 2.5 milllion people, we had 500,000 folks of mexican heritage taking to the streets to oppose the criminalization of "illegals" and to support blanket amnesty. Even the Mayor of Dallas was shocked at the numbers which in my guestimate is 1.5 million non-legal and descendents of non-legal immigrants living in the Dallas area. Many dallas-mexicans don't learn english because they work, and live in areas that are only spanish speaking. Teachers are required to be bilingual in DISD and most Texas born kindergartners of immigrant parents do not speak any english. Jobs are now being posted for bilingual speaking workers since the majority of people in Dallas are now spanish speaking. The local Talented and Gifted School was bragging about how all their students are bilingual and bicultural. This sounds great if your family is from Mexico, but disturbing if your family arrived on a boat thru Ellis Island. It's helpful to realize some places do have a celebration of Italian or Swedish descent when that is the predominent culture of the area. And the predominent culture in America is fast becoming Mexican.
Overwhelming seems to describe the effect the tremendous number of non-legal Mexicans is having on our Dallas schools, hospital emergency rooms and social services. The truth is most Mexicans are hard working, and just want a better life for themselves and their family. They are taking advantage of our system because it gives them a leg up. They cry "racist" because that is the best defense for an undefendable position--that they entered this country illegally, work under a false and forged social security id and continue to live here for many years without a proper visa. This will not change thru our government since business benefits from using non-union mexican electricians for $21 rather than union american workers for $42. So much for Mexicans doing work that Americans won't.
So why mention this on a city-blog? The southern states are the gateway in this trend, and we see the tsunamic wave of mexican and south american immigrants coming your way. Government authorities figure it is around 34,000 people every 10 days. Some local cities are trying to pass laws to make it more diffucult to hire undocumented workers but the huge political base of resident mexican/americans makes it very difficult. Politicians who try are labeled "racists". Heads up, cities in the Northwest, if you think you've had a large upswing in your non-papered immigrant population, you haven't seen the apex of the curve yet. If you want to set up any local regulations against the employment or residence of non-legal immigrants from our northern and southern borders, you should do it now. Write your local, State, and Federal representatives and let them know what you think, and keep on writing them until something changes.
A question, if Mexico is such a great place to live, why don't the native stay there? Grants Pass is a growing town with a small town attitude. It is not beyond it's problems, where there is human life, there is problems. I am a real estate broker and have sold homes to many california people. Most of them want to come to a place where your safe to go out at night, people, just friendly people that will talk with you and be happy to see you. But, I have also experienced people who moved here from Calif. want to change this beautiful scenery to subdivisions and expensive cars, with such attitudes when they drive, never letting you in and the road rage is increasing here to an astonishing rate, so they are changing our town to what they wanted to get away from. Sounds like what the mexican people are doing also? It is always easier to run from problems than to dig in and do something to change it. I sure don't have the answer!
Originally Posted by 56MercGal
Hi, I was just looking for info on areas around Grants Pass that are good places to consider. I'm coming up from Salinas,CA where we have major problems with illegals,gangs and almost nowhere for kids to go for recreation,. Tired of it! I know spots in Oregon have illegal immigrant problems but I drove around Grants Pass and it looked like a nice place. If anyone lives there, could you tell me if that town has a problem with any gang activity,illegals or crime? That's my main concern. I've looked at house rentals and it sure beats the price of homes here! I'm a cartoonist by trade and work my day job as service writer at a diesel performance shop. Salinas has become more and more crime laden, primarily the east side,I'm in the south part about 5 miles away. Get some overflow from that. And more than half the time I hear spanish so I feel like I'm in Mexico! It's starting to look like Mexico here! Too many roach coaches and ice cream venders! Was a nice Ag town till 20 years ago! So whatever you can do to curb illegal immigration in Oregon,a beautiful state,DO IT!! That's why I want out of here! A few hispanics fine,as long as they are legal there,but not %80 of the town please! Thanks!
There isn't anything that Californians can do. Like the poster before you said, it's hard to make the government enforce anything when it is financially benefitting them. The lawmakers sit pretty in their hills estates away from all the socio-economic slums and don't have to endure what the general population has to. This won't change because they don't care. Their pockets get fatter and their houses get bigger, their estates get more guarded and their maids do all their work for them while we deal with the decisions they make. It's not right. America is no longer a democracy. Laws are passed to benefit elections and money, not the people. California is the biggest offender in my opinion (I am from California) and I hate it. I wish there was something we could do, but I really don't see a solution.
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