Grants Pass Voting againstjails is voting to promote education as well as your own interests (Portland: rent)

[beanangel]

Hi there
I am urging people to vote against what is called criminal justice funding particularly here at Grants Pass this May 15th.

2.83 dollars per 100k valuation means each Grants Pass taxpayer will pay hundreds of dollars to promote warehousing people. Jailing people is an activity I believe actually promotes crime as well as economic decline.

As a street person I have actually visited a county correctional facility on charges of illegal lodging. A neighbor saw me on a road while I was camped near a factory at California. The result of my unintended nonappearance at court was about 14 days of jail. Those funds, that casual jail space availability, could have been a field trip to an entire classroom full of kids or $700 or much more one Californian could have kept.

While I was there the guards mentioned that jail was like crime school. although less appealing things occured there, I am willing to note that about 4 to 6 jail guards lifted me up then briefly touched my head to the wall battering ram style. at $20 an hour each that represents $100 of taxpayer money to perhaps increase, rather than reduce criminality.

Here at Oregon, with fewer jail beds, if I sleep on the edge of some persons property they simply ask me to leave, then I leave. If you object to a vagrant, try leaving a note asking them to leave, then "feel" the extra $100 you lkept from skipping phoning the police.

Also at California for each 100 county correctional incarcerations perhaps 10 persons become partially active at county funded programs, programs I have noticed ask loyalty to a thing that calls itself "mother" yet is actually organized crime. Persons on these programs absorb money which could have been used to benefit society, rather than merely provide a conduit where a "50/50" amount of their benefits get redirected to organized crime.

A few years ago the Seattle city council directed the Seattle police to place drug arrests at the police's lowest priority. Rather than fund jail, direct the city council to list those activities which are to the lowest priority of police. There remain efficiency improvements to be made rather than taxes to gather.


Keep your money, be kind to people, reduce crime. Minimize jail funding.

[93651]

Let me guess, you're a Ron Paul supporter?

[Leisesturm]

Originally Posted by 93651

Let me guess, you're a Ron Paul supporter?

Does Ron Paul think jails are a waste of taxpayer resources? That's nice. Unfortunately he also thinks that across the board de-regulation of corporate America is good for growth. Maybe, but at what price? I suppose what I am saying is that I agree with the o.p. that jails function mainly as a backdoor avenue to provide opportunity for revenue, employment and construction projects. Does that make me a Ron Paul supporter? No it does not. Your statement is untrue in the case of yours truly. What are the odds that it is true in the case of the o.p.?

Spoiler

Low, very low

H

[Random_Walk]

Err, Josephine County has way too many financial problems as it is right now.

Hell, they need a sufficiently-funded police force, for starters.

BTW - no jails only means the existing ones get over-crowded (causing more violence), or the prisoners get farmed out to other jails in other counties. You know that, right?

But hey - maybe we can rent rooms to house them, starting with your place.

[hamellr]

Originally Posted by Random_Walk

But hey - maybe we can rent rooms to house them, starting with your place.

That's how the first Settlers did it, before the Jail in Portland and later the one in Salem were built.

This book talks about that in great detail: http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blan...ins=087422280X