Pumping gas? (Grants Pass: rent, crime rates, construction)

[missy2]

Originally Posted by RockyMtnr

I moved here, to Oregon, figuring I would hate the lack of self-serve. I've adjusted. I'm no more opposed to it than I am to pre-pay.
I kinda like driving to dinner and my hand doesn't smell like gas while I hold my fork-full of food up to my mouth. I kinda like listening to my tunes or speaking with my wife, simply relaxing for a minute while on a trip and gassing up.
I kinda like that more jobs are created - jobs that pay more than a "good" job paid in the state I moved from.
Waiting is a hassle - but one must consider that these are not really "high-end" jobs - so, expecting the most capable of employees is not quite fair.
It's Oregon. That right there is the kicker. Nothing beats it.
Was surprised to find out that Oregon isn't just another California though - that it really does have a "feel" of Happy Days (the 50's/60's).

Any rural state you pump. Pa/Del/CT/and westtttttttttt we go!!! Haaaaaaa! The good life, smell of gas and so forth. Did you go to Beaver Ore and visit the Rolan Family? I heard they were down to earth peeps.

[RockyMtnr]

Originally Posted by missy2

Any rural state you pump. Pa/Del/CT/and westtttttttttt we go!!! Haaaaaaa! The good life, smell of gas and so forth. Did you go to Beaver Ore and visit the Rolan Family? I heard they were down to earth peeps.

Not sure you got the right planet here MissE2: Never heard of a Rolan Family, never been to Beaver OR and to my knowledge there are only two "they-pump" states, one being Oregon and I cannot recall the second - but seem to recall someone saying their state wouldn't allow self-serve either.
Will be happy to attempt answering your questions if you would help me understand them better.

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by RockyMtnr

Thank You, Thank you, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!
Spread the word Brother! (or Sister). Testify!

Doggone right that sort of driving works in California - been there, done that - nothing smoother moving than a California rush-hour ... bumper-to-bumper at 85 mph or so where you put on a turn-signal and a hole magically appears right where you need it ... and if you delay a half-second it closes right back up and you're out to dry ....... but it doesn't work most other places. Oregonadians seem to take care of business just fine - at slightly over the speed limit. Those dang out-of-state drivers ... the only difference I see between California drivers and Washington drivers is, the Washington drivers are setting in the middle of the injury-accident that they created ... while the California drivers are loooong gone from the one they created!

LOL I love your description of the CA commuter traffic!

Oh come on now. I thought the Oregonians were hands down the worst drivers I've ever seen - in the area I lived in anyway. No one used a turn signal, and one other oddity that I can't remember right now.

Oh well.......

[esya]

Yeah!! that is definitely for me. I have no desire to step out in a cold wind and wrestle with the gas cap.

[jm21]

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

LOL I love your description of the CA commuter traffic!

Oh come on now. I thought the Oregonians were hands down the worst drivers I've ever seen - in the area I lived in anyway. No one used a turn signal, and one other oddity that I can't remember right now.

Oh well.......

From what I remember, a while back there was an article on how well people from different states knew the rules of the road, and OR scored the highest. Not sure if this is the same one, but..

ROADandTRACK.com -- Daily Auto Insider - Oregon's Drivers Smartest — Rhode Island's Dumbest, Study Says (5/2005)


It depends where you live though...even more than the transplants, the college students are horrible drivers. Or maybe they're transplant college students? Driving in a college town like Corvallis can be downright dangerous either way.

[jiffin4java]

Originally Posted by jm21

From what I remember, a while back there was an article on how well people from different states knew the rules of the road, and OR scored the highest. Not sure if this is the same one, but..

ROADandTRACK.com -- Daily Auto Insider - Oregon's Drivers Smartest — Rhode Island's Dumbest, Study Says (5/2005)


It depends where you live though...even more than the transplants, the college students are horrible drivers. Or maybe they're transplant college students? Driving in a college town like Corvallis can be downright dangerous either way.

I learned to drive in MI and lived in FL, CA, and now TX. CA and TX drivers make me crazy! Looking forward to OR!

[RockyMtnr]

The worst I have ever seen are Utah drivers.
The second-worst are Idaho drivers - but only when they drive in states Other than Idaho - in their home state, they'll mow you down like bad gangsters!
Then, there were the Florida drivers, years ago - mostly, at that time, the Cuban transplants - some might remember the ones - they drove the cars without doors! (No offense intended toward Cubans, Hispanics or cars without doors).
Washingtonians should not drive.
New Mexico - if you're driving down the road ... any road ... and you see a car ... any car - it's going to get in front of you and slow down. Doesn't matter if they have to pass you, u-turn to get going in the same direction as you, turn left, turn right, pull out of a parking spot ... they will get in front of you - and slow down.
Texas - they're gone. Except for retired cops. They're putt-putting or speeding up - whichever it was you needed them NOT to do.
Ohio - They know what they're doing. Don't try to figure it out. Get your behind outta there! They'll kill you. And they don't care!!
Minnesota - you're invisible. remember that. they don't even know you're there!
Utahns don't know how to merge or turn while Oregonians do have a problem merging - but they're not bad ... inconsistency is the biggest problem, I think.
Montana - hard to stick a license-plate on a horse - especially the back end.
Colorado - throw the rule-book out the window ... wait ... NO ... don't! Ten people will cuss you out about littering, 5 will pass the book around wondering if the rest have ever seen it before and 85 are on vacation right now ... can't be bothered.
Illinois - "Help! We don't know where we're going and we can't get off this freeway"!
Tennessee - "It doesn't matter where we're going. We're there".
Pennsyltucky - "Get off my road. Get off my road! Get off my road!!"
New York - "Man, this is the life ain't it? Was that a cow? Holy C***! Alright... Hey! I'm drivin' here"!
Indiana - (overheard out your car window) "ZzzzzZooooommmmmm".
Georgia - "Want a little swaller"?
The Carolinas - "Reel that line in, we're about to get passed".
New Jersey - "Ah, Up Yours"!
Nevada - "KaChing"!!!!
Arizona - "They're breaking the law - you see that? I'm telling"
Michigan - "Shut up and drive while I finish my beer". "Whoaaa - cornfield"!
That's about it - Sorry 'bout leaving some out - especially the Dakotas - where, when an old U-Haul moving box goes blowing across the fields, Mom says "Look kids! That's the North (or South) Dakota State Animal"! And Wisconsin (Hey, this cheese is slippery) - and all those middle states where it just doesn't matter - you just got radar-ed and those New England States where, you go out to the garage, start your car, back out of the driveway and you're there ... where ever it was you were going.
Peace - and Happy Motoring - Oregon isn't all that bad.

[seashelly]

LOL, RockyMtnr. And then there's Vegas -- "You mean ALL these lanes go in one direction?!?"

[RockyMtnr]

Originally Posted by seashelly

LOL, RockyMtnr. And then there's Vegas -- "You mean ALL these lanes go in one direction?!?"

I have not yet recovered from my last trip thru Vegas - a year ago!
For decades, it was the same drive - heading west, down thru and out of Utah; through the dizzying corner of Arizona; to the great and inexpensive little town of Mesquite (NV) and onward ... across the desert ... and more desert ... and more desert ... and finally, looking off to the SW, a few buildings rising from the sand, darkened in their own shadow and finally, an exit - "whoops, this ain't it", then, another exit "is this it"? and onward to the strip - where we realized there were quite a few buildings - nice big casinos, a college, a spread-out village very reminiscent of early Portland (OR) and the shrine ... alas, the shrine is gone (The Levi Factory) ... and a trip over RRpass thru Henderson and on to a million miles of more desert - or straight thru Vegas on the strip and then ... more desert.
I hadn't been in Vegas for about 10-12 years I guess when I went through last year. Holy Bling-Bling!! Fifty lanes (as you say) all in one direction, Buildings rising over, looming over, towering over the Interstate (15), Lights, Mirrors, Fountains - just like driving through one of those "FunHouses" at the carnivals when you were a kid - like being underground - like being swallowed by a lit-up whale! Was that an exit? Vrrrooooom ... Was that an exit? Vrrrooooom ... whoops, missed it .... is than a .... whoops - next stop, Stateline - which has changed in it's own right ... then, turn around and drive the 50 or so miles BACK to Vegas - swearing that, this time, you'll get off somewhere, By God - only to turn around again in N. Vegas and take the old back-road into town.
What can I say about Vegas SeaShelly? I missed it!

[Artful-Thang]

Originally Posted by RockyMtnr

Doggone right that sort of driving works in California - been there, done that - nothing smoother moving than a California rush-hour ... bumper-to-bumper at 85 mph or so where you put on a turn-signal and a hole magically appears right where you need it ... and if you delay a half-second it closes right back up and you're out to dry ...

I'm SO sick of California traffic and driving and yeah, the tail-gating at high speeds. It took me 30 minutes longer than usual to get into work today because of the rain. There was an accident on the OTHER side of the 5 Freeway near my destination - the frwy was backed up for miles because everyone was slowing down to look. Unbelievable.

I was already annoyed because some woman in a black Honda SUV decided to pull in front of me, even though there wasn't a whole car length between me and the guy in front. She blocked traffic in her originating lane waiting to be able to pull fully into my lane. Seems like that sort of thing has been happening a lot lately, used to be a rare occurance. Oh yeah, and if you don't let people in whenever they want, they throw things at your car. Ugh! I can't wait to move from CA!

Sorry, just had to vent!

I heard that people in WA state are polite drivers and never honk their horns. Not completely true, I found that out when I visited the Seattle area, but they're sure as heck nicer than CA drivers!