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View Poll Results: Regardless of my personal views on the measure, Measure 91 on the Fall 2014 Oregon ballot will:
Pass 67 84.81%
Fail 12 15.19%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-15-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Bartonizer, it's not going to happen in Oregon. There is an exodus of hard core cannabis users who want to be legal. And the remnants who are aficionado's find they have trouble getting enough users who can still vote. Our numbers are higher than the other side would like to admit.
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Old 07-15-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Cannabis Use Triggered 2 Deaths, According To German Study

Denver deaths put focus on marijuana edibles

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Old 07-15-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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I also had 7,000 hits similar to this one on people leaving the state for Colorado and Washington State residency.

'Marijuana refugees' move for pot- MSN Money
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Old 07-15-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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A majority of voters in Oregon support legalization. (Positive Claim)

Latest Poll Shows Oregon Voters Could Legalize Marijuana in November

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51% of those polled support making the personal use of marijuana legal, with only 41% in opposition
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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@Steve

If getting HIGH on marijuana is perceived by you as a bad thing, what makes it so?

HIGH has meaning only in relation to something low or lower, so when you refer to marijuana making someone HIGH, it would simultaneously imply that prior to using marijuana, that person was LOW or LOWER.

Given that you seem to believe that getting HIGH is a bad thing, it is likely that being LOW is considered a good thing in your mind. If that is the case, what make being LOW a good thing?

Now I'm not looking for any research or studies to back you up so you can relax about that. I am simply picking YOUR brain, for YOUR insights, YOUR opinion, YOUR belief.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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A majority of Pot smokers surveyed support legalization. I was never surveyed and neither were at least a dozen other non drug users (don't forget it is a drug), that I know were not either, so we can assume pot use is condoned by those who use it and they would vote fore it if they are allowed by law and if they vote. We can also assume that among those who do not use it, by far the majority and mostly regular voters, that it will fail .... AGAIN.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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A majority of Pot smokers surveyed support legalization. I was never surveyed and neither were at least a dozen other non drug users (don't forget it is a drug), that I know were not either, so we can assume pot use is condoned by those who use it and they would vote fore it if they are allowed by law and if they vote. We can also assume that among those who do not use it, by far the majority and mostly regular voters, that it will fail .... AGAIN.
I JUST posted a poll that says a majority of VOTERS support it regardless of drug use. Moderator cut: removed personal attacks

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Old 07-15-2014, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Such a social problem pot has been in Colorado. The homicide rate dropped 52%. What will they do with all those unemployed homicide detectives?

Colorado Marijuana Sales up, Crime Down
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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I love how substance prohibitionists cite some crazy remote outliers as a concrete basis for their sweeping position, yet immediately abandon that logic-failboat when the same question is posed about gun regulation after some moron shoots up a school.

Alaska is DEFINITELY next, Oregon will come eventually, too. You don't have to like that but the fact that you refuse to see it coming suggests you have your head buried somewhere. The sand, perhaps. Or maybe up your ass.

Marijuana prohibition is very much an issue that tracks along smart/stupid lines... and you can't fool all the people all of the time.

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Old 07-15-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Just outside of Portland
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Prove it right.

I can see those who support smoking dope can't understand that the majority are against it.

The last I knew they had not yet verified enough signatures to get it on the ballot. It seems several of the signatures never lived in Oregon and many were not voters.

From the OregonLive article:
http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/inde...tioners_p.html

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Officials for New Approach Oregon say they will submit 145,000 signatures to
the secretary of state Thursday for their initiative to legalize marijuana in the state.

"We've gathered about 60,000 more than necessary, so I can say we're
confident we'll qualify" for the November ballot, said Peter Zuckerman, a
spokesman for the group. The measure needs 87,213 valid signatures from
registered voters to go before voters at the general election.


Steve, do you really think that they have over 60,000 bogus signatures?
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