10-08-2014, 10:32 PM
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Anyone here do that? I was wondering how much time and money would be needed for a summit. I'm looking for something to do next year and think it would be a good way to spend some vacation time. Something I can do with a few people. I don't feel great about joining a team but I understand the necessity.
10-09-2014, 07:16 AM
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If you do it, rent one of the personal locator beams. If you need rescue and don't carry the beacon, you can be billed for the cost of the rescue. Post your route and let someone know when and where you will be.
If you go in the summer, there is one side of the mountain that you can just hike up with no issues.
Don't over-face yourself. I get sick and tired of watching decent, brave, and generous search and rescue teams risk their lives to try to rescue some idiot that thought he was exempt from the laws of gravity.
10-09-2014, 09:20 AM
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Join this group:
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at least for the first climb. It's not really something you can do alone if you've never done it.
10-09-2014, 09:59 AM
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Don't climb in the spring and don't let your calendar drive the day of your climb. We have lost several climbers because they were caught in a storm when they had to get the climb done on or by a date certain.
ABSOLUTELY rent a transponder, a cell phone won't do.
10-09-2014, 11:01 AM
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Anyone here do that? I was wondering how much time and money would be needed for a summit. I'm looking for something to do next year and think it would be a good way to spend some vacation time. Something I can do with a few people. I don't feel great about joining a team but I understand the necessity.
I've climbed Hood twice(and summited most of the Cascade volcanoes with the exception of Mt. Rainier and Mt. Jefferson).
The easiest and most popular route is the classic south side route up from Timberline Lodge up to the summit via the Hogsback or Old Chute. It's not technically very hard or demanding during the best conditions---anyone in good shape can do it, but you should have some basic mountaineering knowledge or experience to be safe. Most of the route just follows a straight shot up through the Timberline ski area(you hike under the lifts) until you get to the crater itself(reeks of sulfur) and then hike up the steeper final pitch. This is where most accidents on this route happen, but it's basically like walking up a very, very steep staircase. Most people of the thousands that climb even year just take it slow and careful and ascend and descend without any problems, though there are yearly accidents.
As far as time--you'll need a day off, but really not much more than that for the climb itself. Most people go for an "alpine start"--driving up in the night and beginning the climb around midnight and summiting around dawn--this ensures that the snow is firm for the ascent and not too slushy--usually one returns in mid-morning towards noon(depending on how fast you make it back) and then it's just a big breakfast/lunch and a drive home to take a nap. The peak season for climbing Hood(and the most crowded) is early to mid summer. The easiest time to do it is when there's a good snowpack and clear weather--which can occur throughout the year--but is most likely from like late May to early July. Once the snow melts more, it's more dangerous due to rock fall, which is why people sometimes stop trying to summit in late July/August(but it depends on on total snowpack). It can be very crowded on summer weekends, going on a weekday can be a lot more relaxing. People climb all winter and spring on bluebird days, but if it's your first trip it's not recommended in case unexpected weather systems roll in...
As far as cost--it depends if you're going with a guide service or not. I've never gone with a guide, so I don't know costs for a guided trip. At minimum you need warm clothes, crampons, and hiking boots that work with crampons(I avoid the heavy mountaineering boots), helmet, and an ice axe(all both can be rented from REI or mountain shops). Most people I know, just go with a more experienced friend or find a group going or start with the easier peaks and gain some skills.
The Mazamas climber organization has Mt Hood climbs all summer if you sign up in time, though they're not a guide service, they expect you to have some basic climbing knowledge. They have basic climbing skills courses, though they can be pricey for non-members(to become a member you have to pay a fee and have proof that you've already submitted a glaciated peak in the Cascades). If you're not sure if you're interested in climbing future peaks and just want to climb Hood, then a guide service will provide everything including equipment though I don't know the cost. I'd do some research though because I've seen guides up there leading rope teams that didn't seem to know what they were doing--and an inexperienced rope team is more dangerous than not being roped in at all.
A lot of people summit Mt. Hood with minimal experience, but I'd recommend taking time to learn about using an ice axe and how to self-arrest as well as get used to using crampons at a minimum if you don't have that experience already--even if going with a guide. Crevasse rescue techniques or advanced skills isn't really necessary for the south side of Hood if you go in the prime season(you'll be following a highway of other climbers). It's best to have a snow session to practice using a crampon or ice axe if one has never used them before.
There's also easier peaks than Hood that some novice climbers climb first to build up confidence and experience--Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Adams, and South Sister are all volcanoes that are a little more mellow than the top of Hood and all of them are amazing climbs in their own right. Mt. St. Helens is pretty amazing to stare down into the steaming volcanic crater from the rim---and Mt. Adams is a strenuous though not technically difficult climb that provides a good introduction to mountaineering in the Cascades--South Sister can be done with or without snowpack as well and is another massive peak to climb. As well once you climb one of those peaks one can join the Mazamas and then be able to join their group trips.
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10-09-2014, 04:43 PM
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Deezus--what peak would you suggest as the best nontechnical assent, and which is the easiest technical assent? My boys are interested in mountaineering. We would spring for a guide (or organized group) for at least our first technical assent, but it would good to know what areas to look.
10-09-2014, 05:15 PM
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IMHO you should always go with a group with experienced mountaineering experience and never feel you have to press on. I have watched too many die on Mt. Hood.
THE SURVIVOR The eldest sister of one of my daughter's friends died, the sister of one of my son's friends survived this incident.
10-09-2014, 06:02 PM
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Deezus--what peak would you suggest as the best nontechnical assent, and which is the easiest technical assent? My boys are interested in mountaineering. We would spring for a guide (or organized group) for at least our first technical assent, but it would good to know what areas to look.
I think Mt. St. Helens is probably the most interesting non-technical ascent of the volcanoes in the Cascades just because of the fact that you look down at an active volcano crater at the summit. You have to get a permit in the summer, but it's basically just a long hike over scree once you get to mid/later summer and the snow melts--earlier in the year you hike over over snow but you almost don't even need crampons(though an ice axe or poles helps if there is snow). Likewise climbing South Sister can range from snow-covered to just a long hike depending on if you go later in the summer. South Sister is very similar to other large volcanoes, but it can just be a long family hike if you go in August.
Mt. Adams is different, because the South Climb is more than just a hike in a way, but it's fairly straightforward and not very risky(as long as the weather's good). But it's got a lot of vertical in the climb and it feels pretty long--6,700 ft--and some people camp half way up at 9000 ft, though I just camped at the trailhead campground and woke early to summit in one day. Adams is probably the best peak for a novice mountaineer to get some experience using a crampons and ice axe on a route that isn't really technical--but you get a sense of what it's like to travel over extensive snowfields--and it's the biggest peak in the Northwest one can summit without more experience. So it's a good peak to gain experience on.
Once you get past those, Hood is the logical next step--and it's sort of right at the border between easier to climb and technical. Once you get past Hood in terms of difficulty, you're looking at longer more involved climbs with big snowfields like Baker up to Rainier or smaller peaks that are basically a hike combined with technical rock climbs at the top like Three Fingered Jack or Mt. Washington(a little trickier).
There's also some good non-technical peaks in the southern Cascades like Diamond Peak and Mt. McLoughlin for just hiking up--and if you can make it to Eastern Oregon, the Wallowas have some great non-technical summits.
I'd say that ideally following is a good progression in terms of difficulty for people getting into mountaineering:
Mt. St. Helens or South Sister
Mt. Adams
Then Mt. Hood
Once someone climbs Hood they'll know if they want to move on to more mountaineering or if that was enough for them...
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Thank you so much Deezus! What a perfect and succinct summary and progression list. This will help me immensely.
Sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread slightly--I hope you also find the infomation you need.
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People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)