Beautiful areas of Oregon (Portland, Hubbard: houses, buy, live in)

[CedarView]

[quote=halen;3593638] I think your problem is that you can't stand the thought of a young retired person who drives a BMW is looking to buy in areas that you can't afford to live in. No, I guess that I would not be welcomed if everyone has your "old attitude".
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Oh please, I work 3 days a week and we have a house for sale in Malibu for 1.8 million on Broad Beach (by Bush Realty--wanna buy it?) You think I'm going to broadcast that when I move in 11 months to Sprague River (where I own 17 lots)? How effective would it be to buzz around up there in a beemer, acting impatient?
This is exactly the attitude I am talking about.

[illinoisboy]

Stay in California. Oregon dosen't need you.

[Silverfall]

Originally Posted by illinoisboy

Stay in California. Oregon doesn't need you.

We welcome all good people to Oregon. I think the issue is that halen has some mutually exclusive criteria. The whole point of posting on here is to find those things out.

At least he knows that he can't find a place within 60 minutes of upscale dining, culture, etc and be totally secluded at the same time. Knowing this will allow him to change his criteria and reprioritize.

There are a lot of good regulars on the forum who offer sound advice and information with a range of beliefs. It would be nice if we could keep it respectful.

[halen]

Oh please, I work 3 days a week and we have a house for sale in Malibu for 1.8 million on Broad Beach (by Bush Realty--wanna buy it?) You think I'm going to broadcast that when I move in 11 months to Sprague River (where I own 17 lots)? How effective would it be to buzz around up there in a beemer, acting impatient?
This is exactly the attitude I am talking about.[/q

Yeah. Mmmhmm. You are not even from Oregon, so what exactly is your problem? Impatience? If a thread is viewed a few hundred times with no responses then that must mean there was no answer to the question.
Pardon me, but you are what gives California a bad name. And next time, don't tie in information from other threads. The two had nothing to do with each other. By the time I asked the second question, I had given up on my previous criteria.

[halen]

Originally Posted by Silverfall

We welcome all good people to Oregon. I think the issue is that halen has some mutually exclusive criteria. The whole point of posting on here is to find those things out.

At least he knows that he can't find a place within 60 minutes of upscale dining, culture, etc and be totally secluded at the same time. Knowing this will allow him to change his criteria and reprioritize.

There are a lot of good regulars on the forum who offer sound advice and information with a range of beliefs. It would be nice if we could keep it respectful.

Yes, I have exclusive criteria, and I came seeking information. Thank you, Silverfall, for your responses. I have learned much in just a few posts. By the way, it is she.

[tulegirl]

Originally Posted by halen

If a thread is viewed a few hundred times with no responses then that must mean there was no answer to the question.
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I never really understood this... I posted a response to your question a little over 2 hours of the original post.

Your post title says " Beautiful areas of Oregon" it could imply that it is a photo collection (that is why I opened it). Found out it was a question and I could contribute. IMO, hit counts shouldn't be a measurement of wether or not a question is answerable. Know what I mean? 2 hours is a pretty short time limit when we are communicating with people all over the world.

[Joe_Ryder]

Originally Posted by halen

As to your alert and your bet, I do not care how long the BMW dealership takes to serve me. I just need a dealership available to serve me as this is the only brand of car I have ever owned and I will need service from time to time. I believe in brand loyalty.

Had you really done your research, you would have discovered that independent repair shops have the highest levels of customer satisfaction while Dealerships, Bimmer dealers included, have the second lowest and and are only surpassed in customer dissatisfaction by big box stores who offer limited auto repair service. Though you may believe the dealership will offer you superior service, the ASE, BBB, Department of consumer Affairs, and even Consumer Reports tend to disagree. Even if there's no nearby dealership, you should have no difficulty finding a repair facility to maintain your BMW. If you are concerned about warranties, I'd suggest you stop believing the misleading statements your dealer has probably been feeding you and look into the Magnuson-Moss Act of 1975. You might find it quite enlightening and you'll probably be enraged when you discover the wool has been pulled over your eyes. Repair licenses are issued by state governments and not manufacturers no matter how your fine print is interpreted for you.

I am 45 and have been retired for 3 years. When I visit Oregon, the only Californian thing I take is a license plate and oddly enough I am always treated very well. I tend to disagree with the statements made that things move more slowly in Oregon. In my experience, things actually move a lot faster. Down in LA there is a lot of frenetic scurrying about while surprisingly little is being accomplished for the amount of energy expended. Darting in and out of traffic for two hours to travel 15 miles isn't particularly efficient in my opinion. The appearance of activity doesn't mean any useful work is actually being completed. I've noticed that when observing people working in Oregon, they are actually working instead of hiding from their boss. As an ex-employer myself, I learned that an employee who works slowly and consistently tends to be far more productive than the flash and dash type. The worst part of speedy people is that the employer has to hire someone else to follow behind them and clean up their many mistakes and omissions.

To answer the original question, you pretty much described most of Oregon. Why not hop in the Bimmer and go have a look-see? I've gleaned from other posts in this thread that since you're retired, you should have plenty of time. Oregon isn't a huge state and since traffic is light, you can get a pretty good feel for the whole state in just a few days driving around. Gas is a lot cheaper up there too and they actually have service station attendants to put the fuel in your car for you!

From the criteria you've suggested you need, I doubt you'll find it anywhere. Areas with low population densities simply don't offer what cities offer. While cities can't offer open spaces with few people. At some point you have to choose what's more important. If you truly want to get away from throngs of people, you have to give up certain aspects of city life. About the closest you'll find to that ideal would be the suburbs and I wouldn't wish that particular curse on anyone.

I would suggest you try renting a place in a small town for awhile. Rent something IN town and not out in the middle of nowhere. You may just find it's the compromise you've been looking for. You may have to give up fine dining and the Bimmer but in the end, the Bimmer is just a car, and the most popular and long-lived restaurants are the ones that serve tasty food.

I'm going to toss in a bit of psychobabble based on my observations from half a lifetime in every aspect of automobiles and motorcycles, from design, to racing, to oil changes. A car is not a reflection of a person but more a facsimile of who a person wants to be seen as. What car you drive will tell me more about who you're not than who you are. It's just a machine that will never return your affection. It will never be loyal to you and when you hand the keys to it's next owner and a tear comes to your eye, the car won't care.

[halen]

Originally Posted by Joe_Ryder

Had you really done your research, you would have discovered that independent repair shops have the highest levels of customer satisfaction while Dealerships, Bimmer dealers included, have the second lowest and and are only surpassed in customer dissatisfaction by big box stores who offer limited auto repair service. Though you may believe the dealership will offer you superior service, the ASE, BBB, Department of consumer Affairs, and even Consumer Reports tend to disagree. Even if there's no nearby dealership, you should have no difficulty finding a repair facility to maintain your BMW. If you are concerned about warranties, I'd suggest you stop believing the misleading statements your dealer has probably been feeding you and look into the Magnuson-Moss Act of 1975. You might find it quite enlightening and you'll probably be enraged when you discover the wool has been pulled over your eyes. Repair licenses are issued by state governments and not manufacturers no matter how your fine print is interpreted for you.

I am 45 and have been retired for 3 years. When I visit Oregon, the only Californian thing I take is a license plate and oddly enough I am always treated very well. I tend to disagree with the statements made that things move more slowly in Oregon. In my experience, things actually move a lot faster. Down in LA there is a lot of frenetic scurrying about while surprisingly little is being accomplished for the amount of energy expended. Darting in and out of traffic for two hours to travel 15 miles isn't particularly efficient in my opinion. The appearance of activity doesn't mean any useful work is actually being completed. I've noticed that when observing people working in Oregon, they are actually working instead of hiding from their boss. As an ex-employer myself, I learned that an employee who works slowly and consistently tends to be far more productive than the flash and dash type. The worst part of speedy people is that the employer has to hire someone else to follow behind them and clean up their many mistakes and omissions.

To answer the original question, you pretty much described most of Oregon. Why not hop in the Bimmer and go have a look-see? I've gleaned from other posts in this thread that since you're retired, you should have plenty of time. Oregon isn't a huge state and since traffic is light, you can get a pretty good feel for the whole state in just a few days driving around. Gas is a lot cheaper up there too and they actually have service station attendants to put the fuel in your car for you!

From the criteria you've suggested you need, I doubt you'll find it anywhere. Areas with low population densities simply don't offer what cities offer. While cities can't offer open spaces with few people. At some point you have to choose what's more important. If you truly want to get away from throngs of people, you have to give up certain aspects of city life. About the closest you'll find to that ideal would be the suburbs and I wouldn't wish that particular curse on anyone.

I would suggest you try renting a place in a small town for awhile. Rent something IN town and not out in the middle of nowhere. You may just find it's the compromise you've been looking for. You may have to give up fine dining and the Bimmer but in the end, the Bimmer is just a car, and the most popular and long-lived restaurants are the ones that serve tasty food.

I'm going to toss in a bit of psychobabble based on my observations from half a lifetime in every aspect of automobiles and motorcycles, from design, to racing, to oil changes. A car is not a reflection of a person but more a facsimile of who a person wants to be seen as. What car you drive will tell me more about who you're not than who you are. It's just a machine that will never return your affection. It will never be loyal to you and when you hand the keys to it's next owner and a tear comes to your eye, the car won't care.

I have not done any research but post on the board, I was checking if there is such a place that serves my needs. An independent repair shop is where one of my cars was destroyed purposely by a man who got mad at me because I did not want to give into his bull about my car. I was a racecar driver at one time, drove for a series under a very well known sanctioning body. I know a thing or two about cars. I like the way BMW treats me and that is that! Moreover, if I were to use a car to be something I am not, I would drive a Ferrari. And maybe you, sir, makes love to your car, but I can assure you, I do not.

I had 1000 employees; I know all about inefficiency. I know what you are talking about there. I don’t consider anyplace slow compared to a large city. This is a modern world. Everything happens in New York and Los Angeles at the same speed in Oregon, I am sure.

As for renting, who is going to let me rent 5 acres of horse property just so I can see if I like it? I did choose at a certain point what was important to me. That is why when I asked again, I only asked about rural places. The horses and trees are what are important to me. Avoiding urban sprawl is what is important. The whole state will not serve me because half of Oregon is desert. I only mentioned the repair shop because I need it, not to let people know what I drive. Honestly, who gives a damn? Obviously the people of Oregon do. I travel frequently, I need an airport. I host guests frequently; they need to eat. None of this is anybody’s business but now I am forced to explain everything.

Good God, the human condition these days, what sad shape it is! I posted for information and what I got was an attack. I wanted to help to preserve rural life, support local farmers, and do large scale gardening myself. I had to ask about conveniences because this is the real world... What crime did I commit? God, what hateful people.

[halen]

Originally Posted by tulegirl

I never really understood this... I posted a response to your question a little over 2 hours of the original post.

Your post title says " Beautiful areas of Oregon" it could imply that it is a photo collection (that is why I opened it). Found out it was a question and I could contribute. IMO, hit counts shouldn't be a measurement of wether or not a question is answerable. Know what I mean? 2 hours is a pretty short time limit when we are communicating with people all over the world.

I posted to communicate with the people of Oregon, not the world.

[dachmom]

WOW! Sounds like from the tone of your responses you are stressed out and need a "slower paced" life! Take it easy, you have to understand that we get a lot of Californians coming here who like to think they are better than the rest of us because they drive BMW's and buy big, expensive houses.

Two hours is not a long time to wait for a response.We live in the beautiful PNW and frankly most of us would rather be outside rather than inside tethered to a computer. Don't get offended, I'm not implying you are tethered to a computer.

I'm sure you can find something you like in Oregon, you may have to change or compromise your standards a little.
I think you will find we are not "hateful people". We are just tired of listening to people who have moved here whine about the "slow pace" and the "rainy, gloomy weather".