Growing Population (Salem: luxury, subdivision, prices)

[Steve97415]

Originally Posted by PDXsailor

I think it is mainly people outside of Portland Metro and people that have moved in from other states that complain so much. Portland voters approve measures that help the libraries, parks, and police even when we had to pay an additional $800 a year. But outside of Portland including some of the neighboring cities, people are really anti-government anti-tax and only seem to care about themselves. Portland, Salem, and Eugene are liberal, the rest of the state is conservative.

Really, you can just about take a ruler and gauge the amount of bonehead factor in fiscal politics by measuring the distance from Salem. If you're within three inches on a standard atlas (1"=25 miles) scale, you're probably safe from excessive Neanderthral influence. That radius takes in the entire Willamette Valley from Portland in the north, to Eugene in the south, and Lincoln City on the coast to the agricultural lands on the windward flanks of the Cascades to the East...maybe even a little peninsula extending as far as Bend. There is a quantum leap in cranial bone density when you cross the Jefferson Attitude Line (southern boundary of Lane County) where you can add "anti-intellectual" to the list of "anti-s". Ashland is a remarkable exception -- a refuge of culture and education perched just east of the Southern Oregon Meth Belt. But it's a struggle for them to maintain their little island of sanity there.

[Waterlily]

Originally Posted by Muhnay

Ok, so I know for a fact, People from Portland proper, and Seattle hate people from Cali.. how do they feel about people from Texas?

Are there any Hispanics in Canada? Just curious.. Wondering if they made it that far. Dont over read into that.. And if Canada is more excepting of them.

I don't think there is any resentment towards Texans here in Oregon. I have been to Seattle but I didn't happen to see any Texans. Canada...well I haven't heard about Hispanics sneaking in there yet.

[PDXsailor]

We love Texans. They talk funny and it is good to laugh

[aipperdog]

What about Nebraskans? (and no, I am not a Republican but there is a lot of them here) Our taxes are so high here because we pay for just about every service the people demand, meanwhile good jobs are few and far between. So if you are lucky to get a decent job here, your paycheck is pretty pathetic after property and assorted taxes-And the scenery-where? Oregon and Washington state seem pretty cool compared to here. So, if you had to move to one place in Oregon, where would it be and why?

[Muhnay]

Originally Posted by PDXsailor

We love Texans. They talk funny and it is good to laugh

LOL.. you do know that them there Blue Colar guys are from Louisiana, dont-cha?

[freedom]

Move next door to Steve, he has all the solutions to the planet.

[Clear2land]

I would like to give you my two cents on all this talk about schools. More emphasis is being placed on local schools in the families’ city selection process unnecessarily. Please don’t misunderstand me? I am all FOR a good education. I would rather my child get straight A’s then attend this school or that school. I am a product of the plain vanilla Oregon public school system. I attended Benson Polytechnic High School in Portland and graduated from Roseburg Senior High School. In my lifetime of work, I have rubbed shoulders with all kinds of college graduates and when it came right down to it, the school someone attended had nothing to do with the amount of success one achieved in their career. I’m not sure the grade school, junior high, high school, or even which college you attended makes any difference to an employer. They are looking for skill-sets. I was in the wealth generation business for over 30-years. When it comes to wealth, it is attitude not aptitude that will determine your altitude.

Dan

[Steve97415]

One can draw conclusions based on one's own life experience or one can draw conclusions from formal studies that have followed the lives of thousands of students. Many different groups have tried to find a correlation between school funding and later career success. One of the difficulties in doing so is that much of school funding since the 1950's typically goes to non-academic expenditures, with athletic programs being the big-ticket drain on the budget. After correcting for this, the Carnegie Foundation arrives at a split conclusion. Children who attended inadequately funded schools had lower incomes in later life and lower career satisfaction than those who attended schools that were adequately funded. Beyond this adequacy threshold -- as defined by the study -- there was no clear correlation. So while it may be true that having a school district that is swimming in lucre is no real advantage, students in underfunded school districts appear to be at a distinct disadvantage...according to the study (which for all we know, may have been conducted by a bunch of College brainwashed liberals who never had the benefit of a proper home-schooling, so there is room for skepticism). So the $64,000 question seems to be how much money is adequate? Another study shows that students in underfunded schools are much more likely to report feeling unhappy in school than those in adequately funded districts. But can we trust what kids say?

In any event, I don't see it as my place to act as a philosophical check-valve for anyone's queries on the geography of school funding. If someone wants to know at what levels of adequacy different parts of the state fund their schools, I'll tell them what I know. As to whether or not it makes a difference? They're the ones who are going to have to pay the associated property taxes, so it's up to them to make use of the information as they see fit.

[4sarad]

Wow, Clear2Land. Grades are more important to you than what your children actually learn? I wouldn't care if my children just scraped by as long as they were actually learning a lot, and what they learned was actually true and relevant. I care about what kind of people they turn out to be much more than how elite of a job they can attain.

[aipperdog]

Originally Posted by Muhnay

LOL.. you do know that them there Blue Colar guys are from Louisiana, dont-cha?

Actually Larry the Cable Guy is from Nebraska and still lives there.hehe