With the current economy would you move

[mysticgold]

I can only say this to the above statements. Negative comment are found in every area, there is no perfect place there is only the perfect attitude when one makes a change, and through change comes personal growth. If FEAR is an issue none of us would ever change anything, and if we all want change to happen we have to look to the leaders we have put in office and hound them until the change we want comes about.

Life is too short to fear the unknown, and if one takes life as the journey it is destined to be then any type of change is good for any one individual

Our most precious commodity while we are here is our time and energy and how we use them determines how far we will evolve in this lifetime.

Blessings

[Leisesturm]

Maybe Portland homeowners do not 'actualize' the 20% decrease but that does not mean that the various sources that evaluate real estate have not lowered their appraisal values. Our home was available as a rental because the buyers/owners don't want to sell it for what it is currently worth, about 20% less than they paid for it last year. After a year of paying two mortgages they decided to rent the one we now live in. All over Portland properties that would have been 'for sale' are now instead 'for rent' so the owners don't have to face reality... yet.

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[scone]

Meth is a serious problem all over Oregon. Google the Department of Justice website or the Oregonian for the facts. Wages are low compared to the cost of living. And construction jobs are already being impacted by the housing and credit downturn. Again, google the Oregonian or the State of Oregon's official state economist web page. Right now even "secure" union jobs with the county are in danger, due to the recent loss of timber payments. My county is looking at a 10% across the board cut, with last arrivals being cut first. Some of our biggest builders are being foreclosed on. Google "legend homes" for one example. Our local , building suppliers, window and door makers, cabinetmakers, truckers, etc. are all being impacted by the downturn.

As for you getting a job, even with a large family you might find you have to do so, if your husband's satellite job does not pan out.

Look, Oregon is great, and I'm not trying to keep anyone from moving here, but the reality is that jobs are scarce, they are probably going to get scarcer, and if you come here without a second income or a 6 month emergency fund at the very least, you could find yourself in trouble. I'm not painting a rosy picture, because there isn't any. Business conditions are currently pretty grim.

[Minervah]

Originally Posted by mysticgold

I can only say this to the above statements. Negative comment are found in every area, there is no perfect place there is only the perfect attitude when one makes a change, and through change comes personal growth. If FEAR is an issue none of us would ever change anything, and if we all want change to happen we have to look to the leaders we have put in office and hound them until the change we want comes about.

Life is too short to fear the unknown, and if one takes life as the journey it is destined to be then any type of change is good for any one individual

Our most precious commodity while we are here is our time and energy and how we use them determines how far we will evolve in this lifetime.

Blessings

This is fine for one or two people who can take a risk moving to a place without savings or work. But add 7 kids into the equation and the situation changes. People cannot afford to be so cavalier about choices when they have such a huge responsibility.
No one is being negative for negativity's sake; they are just telling it like it is. Any thoughtful person who is a potential transplant should want know what they could be getting into.

[mauigirl6]

Originally Posted by Minervah

This is fine for one or two people who can take a risk moving to a place without savings or work. But add 7 kids into the equation and the situation changes. People cannot afford to be so cavalier about choices when they have such a huge responsibility.
No one is being negative for negativity's sake; they are just telling it like it is. Any thoughtful person who is a potential transplant should want know what they could be getting into.

thanks I agree.

[franksbacon]

Originally Posted by scone

Meth is a serious problem all over Oregon. Google the Department of Justice website or the Oregonian for the facts. Wages are low compared to the cost of living. And construction jobs are already being impacted by the housing and credit downturn. Again, google the Oregonian or the State of Oregon's official state economist web page. Right now even "secure" union jobs with the county are in danger, due to the recent loss of timber payments. My county is looking at a 10% across the board cut, with last arrivals being cut first. Some of our biggest builders are being foreclosed on. Google "legend homes" for one example. Our local , building suppliers, window and door makers, cabinetmakers, truckers, etc. are all being impacted by the downturn.

As for you getting a job, even with a large family you might find you have to do so, if your husband's satellite job does not pan out.

Look, Oregon is great, and I'm not trying to keep anyone from moving here, but the reality is that jobs are scarce, they are probably going to get scarcer, and if you come here without a second income or a 6 month emergency fund at the very least, you could find yourself in trouble. I'm not painting a rosy picture, because there isn't any. Business conditions are currently pretty grim.

I grew up in the area during the late 70's-80s. Jobs have always been scarce and low paying. If you are moving to So. Oregon for "the jobs" then you really have no idea what your going to step into. Sure during the late 90s and through 2005 during the housing boom, things were ok, but even then a good job in this area is dreaded in most areas of the country. However, it is a great way of life and great place to raise a family, just don't plan on having an abundance of money to do it with.

[Nell Plotts]

Right now I think people should hunker down where they are, particularly if they have a network of friends/family. If the economy really gets tough these people will see that you sleep in a dry place (even if it is the garage) and eat regularly. Friends will vouch for you for a job and are a source of employment leads.

[mauigirl6]

Originally Posted by Nell Plotts

Right now I think people should hunker down where they are, particularly if they have a network of friends/family. If the economy really gets tough these people will see that you sleep in a dry place (even if it is the garage) and eat regularly. Friends will vouch for you for a job and are a source of employment leads.

Well we have lot's of family on the mainland. And the type of family at that that would help us in a crises. We wanted to leave a decade ago but stayed b/c of family pressure. The thing is is that we barely see that family save holidays. So we would be better of familywise on the mainland I think.

Plus I think almost anywhere we move will be cheaper than Maui. Putting us in a better position economically.