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Old 01-22-2007, 08:36 PM
 
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I would have to say that Freedom got it right. What you are looking for is mostly in the coast towns. I would also say maybe try the far east. They are very nice over there. My family lives in Bend and Ontario. Ontario is more what you are looking for. Bend is getting to be very high in price to live. But I think no matter who moves to Oregon as long as you are nice people will be nice to you. We live in So Cal right now because my husband is a Marine. We will be moving to McMinnville in May. Its small and we miss the rain. But both my husband and I grew up in Oregon. Its great.... some parts suck... just like any other state! Thought I would add my two cents
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:52 AM
 
Location: coos bay oregon
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I live in Coos Bay and we've got a really great charter school. I hear wonderful things about it! I believe they just extended their grade levels too..but youd have to check it out if youre interested because I dont know details
I work in a place where I see a lot of newcomers. From all over. Even, for some odd reason, 4 British families just in about a week. Kinda funky, but whatever...anyhow, unless youre coming here, walking in the door complaining about all the things you hate about Coos Bay/Oregon, and/or how terrific your previous state was and how we will never compare favorably to it, you shouldnt have any problems or rudeness from anyone. Well, I cant exclude everyone obviously, every place has got rude people who dont have anything better to do than try to make someone else feel unwelcome, but as a whole, you come w/a good attitude and a friendly word, youre likely to get it back.
Best of luck to you.
Tiffany
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Munchies I'm looking for the exact same thing.

Because of certain overhead costs its almost like we are forced into city living or a different kind of nasty, overcrowded 21st century thing. Nice tract houses in places like Long Island that were middle class where the dad worked 9 to 5 and the wife cooked and stayed at home now require a doctors or lawyers income or two parents working because they cost 500k and have 10k/yr property taxes.

Oregon seems like it has a very low wage, depressed economy, and high taxes due to local politics. It seems like a kind of frustrating squeeze to live there coupled with the grey and the rain. Lot of angry rock groups coming out of the Pacific Northwest. Without a lot of money life isn't all about hiking, being laid back, and eating salmon.

May I suggest as I'm looking into the American South? It has a nice, laid back feel, low prices, good economy, and nothing but growth for its future. Tons of land and pretty good weather. People b*tch about the heat but everyone has a swimming pool and you can go to lakes, turn on the AC, enjoy the summer nights and to be honest most people are working 9-5 monday to friday and are not going to be bothered by the heat that much in the summer. To me it seems like a turning back in time of America to a better and more happy time. What keeps people out of there is it's bad image, it's desire to stay the same way, close mindedness about Republicannism and Christianity for example if you happen to disagree with that stuff, and notions that people there are lazy and uneducated.

Hmm you want a place that is laid back and pleasant? The South has a lot of beautiful parks, the sweet sticky heat and flowers that you cant get elsewhere. Oregon has beautiful parks but seems pretty angry and miserable aside from that. See One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest. Thats Oregon or Pac NW for most of the year.
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Wallstreet 1986

How much time have you spent in Oregon?
What you describe is nothing like the Oregon I know and love.
If i was easily offended (and i'm not) your post would be really offensive and completely false from my POV.

good luck in the south.

freedom.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:58 PM
 
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I agree. I grew up in Oregon, I am still in Oregon, and I'm still loving it. Don't know why you think everyone is angry and miserable. I think you are attracting the wrong type of people, or you only see the negatives in life even when the positives clearly outweigh the negs.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:15 PM
 
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I would be interested to hear your experiences, Wall Street. Different from my exprerience as an Oregonian.,
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Well I was looking at law schools in Oregon and other places and perhaps some jobs.

Law schools cost about 45k a year to attend so lets say about 135k in debt. Of course you get some financial aid so maybe it would be down to 100 or 80k. Also you can make money if you do well enough in your studies between years on the summer.

Starting sals in Oregon for law are around 55/60k i think except for in Portland. This is on par with the South and after paying debt you are left with about 40-45k in income. Housing is moderate could get an apt in Salem for like 600/month. A nice, modest house is about 300k and hmm i'm not looking to buy a house for a while after law school and paying debt. So far I think I'm being realistic and modest. That's more expensive than in the South but you have a lot more outdoors stuff (skiing, hiking, etc) and prettier scenery. Lot of healthy food options, gay and alternative lifestyle tolerant etc, zen centers and stuff like that i'd be looking for.

The thing that kind of freaks me out though is the making an income thing. I'm looking to go into like tax law and estate planning and to be honest i just want to make a decent living, maybe have my own practice and a partner someday. I've never even made 30 grand a year before since i'm a college student so all the figures look pretty crazy.

You hear all sorts of negative naysaying stuff on here and I read stuff on Oregon about the guy who was in construction and came here and worked 6 dollar an hour jobs and how most Oregonians were do it yourselfers and it was hard for him to muster up enough business.

So sorry if I guess I'm freaked out about coming here. I'm really stressed and trying to make the huge decision of choosing where in the country I want to live. I would appreciate some of your positive comments about the place and I would imagine that especially with my type of degree I wouldnt be working two, 6 dollar hour jobs to try to live there with 150k over my head in debt. And when I start thinking like that I pull out my Zen book.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Wall street,

Sounds like you have made a long term commitment to school loans and are dealing with the I've worked so hard in school to get my degree and pass the bar type of thing, that when it comes to working in your field you would like that to pay off and reap some off your rewards, who can blame you? That is after all why people make sacrafices. Hoping one day things will balance out.
Not to much of those things has to do with Oregon. Other than the natural beauty may illeviate some of the stress. Job markets are a trade off of values and desires. Big money in big cities. Less money in little cities.

To me choosing a place to live has very little to do with how much money I can make. If I choose a place to live that suites me, and I like it there, the opportunities have always made themselves available. Something about a joyfull heart and being thankful brings good things.

Oregons minimum wage is also one of the top 5 in the nation. It is going to $7.80 hr. this yr.

freedom
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:09 PM
 
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Munchies I'm looking for the exact same thing.

Because of certain overhead costs its almost like we are forced into city living or a different kind of nasty, overcrowded 21st century thing. Nice tract houses in places like Long Island that were middle class where the dad worked 9 to 5 and the wife cooked and stayed at home now require a doctors or lawyers income or two parents working because they cost 500k and have 10k/yr property taxes.

Oregon seems like it has a very low wage, depressed economy, and high taxes due to local politics. It seems like a kind of frustrating squeeze to live there coupled with the grey and the rain. Lot of angry rock groups coming out of the Pacific Northwest. Without a lot of money life isn't all about hiking, being laid back, and eating salmon.

May I suggest as I'm looking into the American South? It has a nice, laid back feel, low prices, good economy, and nothing but growth for its future. Tons of land and pretty good weather. People b*tch about the heat but everyone has a swimming pool and you can go to lakes, turn on the AC, enjoy the summer nights and to be honest most people are working 9-5 monday to friday and are not going to be bothered by the heat that much in the summer. To me it seems like a turning back in time of America to a better and more happy time. What keeps people out of there is it's bad image, it's desire to stay the same way, close mindedness about Republicannism and Christianity for example if you happen to disagree with that stuff, and notions that people there are lazy and uneducated.

Hmm you want a place that is laid back and pleasant? The South has a lot of beautiful parks, the sweet sticky heat and flowers that you cant get elsewhere. Oregon has beautiful parks but seems pretty angry and miserable aside from that. See One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest. Thats Oregon or Pac NW for most of the year.

I'm sorry to break in and interject here, but I really have to say something about the south.

I live in Central Florida, and this is hell. The rest of the south isn't much better, and deteriorating at a rapid pace. Overcrowding is rampant, and only getting worse. A sizable portion of the population doesn't speak English. The roads have become parking lots. Violent crime is growing at a dizzying pace. Murders for 2006 topped 60+ in the Orlando area alone. On top of all this, it's expensive to live here. We live in a welfare economy in many instances.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:52 AM
 
Location: In the City of Williamsburg, Va
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Many people today live in a welfare conditions due to the rising cost of living and not many jobs out there, well low paying service type jobs that is...
where have all the good jobs gone? Overseas I suppose or out of business maybe? Some parts of the south are very nice, but your right bout Florida, it is a third world country down that way.

I suspect that family inheritances are the reason why most can afford a home over 300 grand today. Those of us without that, must work two or three jobs and are lucky to get a home at all actually. This country has truly fell apart and guess what? Its not getting any better either.

Even people with college educations, with years and years of job experience are just getting by...people who make great money. I know many and my husband is one of them. Its sad what has happened to our country and our ecomnomy. Enjoy what is left to it maybe.
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