Numerous "liberals looking for a liberal place to live" threads (Portland: colleges, airplane)

[frogbark]

Hmmmm. If we just merge a couple paragraphs....

The gist of this thread is that (the ultraconservative right-wing faction of the Republican party) are not open minded, that they are prejudiced and intolerant of liberals throughout Oregon (correct me if I'm wrong, by all means!); that the areas where (the ultraconservative right-wing faction of the Republican party) congregate are living hells for poor liberals who need constantly look over their shoulder for that ax-yielding crazed (the ultraconservative right-wing faction of the Republican party) who's about to whack off their head, all because of their 'left' political and/or religious views.

[OREGONRAIN]

I think everyone needs to do just one thing, learn to get along, and get rid of this conservative or liberal crap to begin with. Just be yourself and live and let live. You can mark my words if the USA doesn't learn that philosophy there isn't much of a future for the country, The self righteousness is nauseating and the disrespect of people that are different needs to go. It has gotten to the point, that people are afraid to live in one state over another, or one community to another, for fear their views will make them a outcast. In my mind that has gone to more than criminal that anyone should have to feel that way, and call here or anyplace home, there is nothing home about that type of atmosphere. This view can be about Portland or oregon in general, or for that matter anyplace. One should live where they want in Oregon

[esya]

This is a ridiculous thread. You should not repeat gossip that is not factually supported by your own experience, ie, "I have heard of many homes/yards in that area being vandalized due to republican signs being displayed in the front lawn. It's sad."

A. This is an unfounded rumor (one I have heard repeated in many parts of Colorado, rural and urban, conservative and liberal)
B. If you did not see someone do this and know it was motivated by anti conservatism it's merely gossip.
C. I agree with the moderator. Take this to a political blog.

[zilfondel]

Interesting. And everytime I turn on Fox News and am told that liberals are terrorists that are trying to kill every American and destroy the country, I somehow feel a bit less open to the neocon viewpoint - and, by association, standard conservatism that puts up with it.

Meh. Portland has one of the highest concentrations of college educated people in the US. I'd say that you will find the absolute highest tolerance among people who have gone through the rigorous, multiethnic & multi-point of viewed academic environment...

Considering I have never even remotely heard of a liberal blowing up an airplane or chopping off a conservative's head with an ax, why do I get this feeling of fear towards "the liberals" is itself founded in, ironically, the intolerance that is being directed at 'the lefties?'

Perhaps a good, long stare in the mirror might be in order.

[DeLaSalle]

Originally Posted by snb3

Do liberals have issues living in a politically & socially diverse area? My general interpretation is of the liberal mindset is one of open mindedness and an all inclusiveness. And yet, I've just read 2 threads today on "must escape the Oregonian rednecks, where is this progressive oasis?" threads. As a person who is considered to be right of whomever I'm around, I sigh when I see this.

If you look @ the CA (OC) forum, you see numerous threads of questions on OC conservatives & stereotypes. There are a few posters here who make blanket statements of certain parts of OR being red and such, being uneducated and having no interests in such. In this instance, I find it to be case of "do as I say, not as I do" when I see a liberal pointing out people they would rather not make their neighbor and yet aspire to live around "other broad minded persons."

Now, I'm just as guilty as anyone when wanting to live where there are like minded persons. My qualifications would be living near others with interests in a strong family and communty, regardless of political affiliation. I live near Hollywood and I disagree a lot more times than agreeing with my friends and co-workers. Still, I consider it healthy for my mind regardless of who's right (if there are absolutes), challenges me as it keeps me intellectually sharp, and the very least, a never-ending conversation (beer guzzling) piece. I have no problem living near Liberals and wonder why a so called Liberal would have a problem living near me?

That is because the so called "Liberals/Progressives" have already ruined where they lived and need a new place to "infect"...

[Chainsaw]

Originally Posted by snb3

I have no problem living near Liberals and wonder why a so called Liberal would have a problem living near me?

Well, I think it's because right-wingnuts are so rarely happy to just live and let live. They're the philosophical heirs of the folks who ran the Spanish Inquisition, put that big ol' 'A' on Hester Prynne, and were at the front of Southern lynch mobs.

They're also the people who move to places like Oregon, find a rich civic infrastructure built by prior generations ... and want to rub it out with tax cuts, idiotic talk of "liberty" and "pork" and "pigs" and "troughs."

I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of insufferable left-wingnuts. Just spend an hour out front of the Ashland Food Coop sometime. But the difference is, they're mostly all show and no go. Few are armed. Even fewer have the ambition to tear anything down, much less a standing, well-functioning infrastructure.

Does that help?

[freedom]

DeSalle;
Ouch. .

To the post regarding rumors. I have personally seen signs being taken, I reported it and the man was warned. Fortunately he was in a majority Conservative location, the man was shown mercy.

The political machine has definitely done a good job in dividing this country based on emotional issues. I think it takes the attention away from showing that politicians really don't have too many solutions for the masses.
Which will eventually lead to our freedom being taken. History will repeat itself, just give it a little time, mixed with apathy. Oh and a few thousand nukes.

[esya]

So, mr freedom:
Are you saying only anti conservatives do this?
Are you saying that the other poster was not gossiping because you saw a sign being taken?
Exactly what was your point? Mine was that none of us should post unverified rumours, do you disagree with that?

[freedom]

Originally Posted by esya

So, mr freedom:
Are you saying only anti conservatives do this?
Are you saying that the other poster was not gossiping because you saw a sign being taken?
Exactly what was your point? Mine was that none of us should post unverified rumours, do you disagree with that?

No, I've seen both sides act fanatically
No, just pointing out my personal experience

We should be as truthfull and accurate as possible. It is difficult to verify anything on a board.

No real point, just sharing.
I like the Mr. part.
"Mr. Freedom" it has a ring to it. Not sure I am worthy of it, but it has a ring never the less.

[freedom]

Originally Posted by Chainsaw

Well, I think it's because right-wingnuts are so rarely happy to just live and let live. They're the philosophical heirs of the folks who ran the Spanish Inquisition, put that big ol' 'A' on Hester Prynne, and were at the front of Southern lynch mobs.

They're also the people who move to places like Oregon, find a rich civic infrastructure built by prior generations ... and want to rub it out with tax cuts, idiotic talk of "liberty" and "pork" and "pigs" and "troughs."

I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of insufferable left-wingnuts. Just spend an hour out front of the Ashland Food Coop sometime. But the difference is, they're mostly all show and no go. Few are armed. Even fewer have the ambition to tear anything down, much less a standing, well-functioning infrastructure.

Does that help?

Funny post.

I think right wingers are past the violence part, unless threatened directly with harm. I love my 50 caliber.

Ashland food co-op, very true report you have made.