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I am considering moving to Ashland from Los Angeles. I am from northern California originally and have had it with LA. I was wondering about the Middle School and High School. On Great Schools.net they both get a 10 out of 10 rating. But on some of these threads I see that schools are closing down (I assume that they are elementary schools?) I have also read that there is a 3.5 million dollar deficit but that the Stimulus package will help that greatly.
I would appreciate any information on you and/or your child's experience in the school system. What is the classroom size, for example. How does the Oregon Shakespeare Festival connect to High School classes (what kinds of classes are offered in connection to the Shakespeare Festival)? Are there lots of AP classes to choose from for High Schoolers? Is the High School Academic as well as "Artsy?" I assume it is, but I would love any thoughts about that.
My son is interested in the Ashland High School ski team. Does anyone know where they ski and anything else bout that?
Also is there any diversity in Ashland? I know it's a wealthier area and the answer is probably no, but just wondering...
I also worry about my kids moving into a town where the kids have all grown up with each other -- do you think it would be hard for them to integrate?
What is the parent involvement at both schools? I am a writer and "at home mom," so I have time to volunteer.
Also, is there a Karate Studio in town? (My son is working towards his black belt...)
I know Oregonians don't want any more Californians invading, but we're a nice family...you'll like us!
Any thoughts on the above is most appreciated...Thanks!
05-29-2009, 01:46 AM
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I am considering moving to Ashland from Los Angeles. I am from northern California originally and have had it with LA. I was wondering about the Middle School and High School. On Great Schools.net they both get a 10 out of 10 rating. But on some of these threads I see that schools are closing down (I assume that they are elementary schools?) I have also read that there is a 3.5 million dollar deficit but that the Stimulus package will help that greatly.
I would appreciate any information on you and/or your child's experience in the school system. What is the classroom size, for example. How does the Oregon Shakespeare Festival connect to High School classes (what kinds of classes are offered in connection to the Shakespeare Festival)? Are there lots of AP classes to choose from for High Schoolers? Is the High School Academic as well as "Artsy?" I assume it is, but I would love any thoughts about that.
My son is interested in the Ashland High School ski team. Does anyone know where they ski and anything else bout that?
Also is there any diversity in Ashland? I know it's a wealthier area and the answer is probably no, but just wondering...
I also worry about my kids moving into a town where the kids have all grown up with each other -- do you think it would be hard for them to integrate?
What is the parent involvement at both schools? I am a writer and "at home mom," so I have time to volunteer.
Also, is there a Karate Studio in town? (My son is working towards his black belt...)
I know Oregonians don't want any more Californians invading, but we're a nice family...you'll like us!
Any thoughts on the above is most appreciated...Thanks!
I won't be able to answer all your questions, because I don't know all the answers, but I'll tell you about what I do know.
First off, it is the elementary schools that are shutting down because average families are being priced out of the community and there just aren't enough students to support having so many schools open.
That said, it is, as you mentioned, a wealthy area and is lacking in much diversity of ANY kind. I have a little anecdote to go along with that. I graduated a few years back from Grants Pass High School and one of my best friends moved to Ashland in 7th grade. She attended Ashland Middle and High Schools, and so I have some privy info from her that's not too out of date or out of touch.
Essentially, most of the student body at AHS was the hippie/yuppie type, and if you didn't fit that you were pretty much on your own. My friend called me one time because she was just so frustrated with the people at her school claiming to be "open-minded" and "tolerant," but then they were confronted with someone different--someone who came out as gay, they would always refer to him as their "
gay friend" instead of just treating him like just another friend. He wasn't their friend. He was their
gay friend. He was always put on the outside. She also had complaints about how the students treated the poorer kids at the school. My impressions were that it was somewhat elitist and cliquey. Sort of an attitude like, "My parents can afford to buy more organic food than yours can so I'm better than you" or "
What ? You ate at
McDonald's ? A
corporate fast food chain ? Ohh... Well I actually have to go now..." Those are just some silly examples of the attitude, but there were some somewhat serious issues there.
The reality is they had no idea how to deal with people different than themselves because they were all so similar, or at least they tried to conform on the surface. I know that sort of stuff goes hand in hand with high school
and small towns, but in comparison that little incident wouldn't have happened at my school (at least when I was there). At GPHS you had the preps, the jocks, the nerds, the goths, the Advanced Placement overacheivers, the emo kids, the Latinos, the poor kids, the rich kids, gays, straights, in betweens, theater kids, band kids, and so on, all co-existing with each other pretty well.
Don't let that make you think it's a terrible school or anything. From an academic perspective, AHS is a very good school. Lots of AP classes and such. It's overall a pretty good school with some really good opportunities for its students. I believe it has a very high rate of students who go on to get college degrees. They have good preparatory programs from what I understand. And your kids will very likely have a much better experience than my friend, as the population of the school is almost completely different now. And though it's largely dependent on your kids, I think if they spend at least 3 years in high school in Ashland they should be able to find their niche of friends.
You should be aware though that there is quite a bit of marijuana usage in Ashland High--I know this bit for a fact. You're not necessarily considered a stoner there just because you smoke, so it's not
as much of a social taboo.
Ashland is just about right next door to Mount Ashland Ski Resort, so I imagine that's where the ski team does most of their skiing, with jaunts down to Mount Shasta in California since it's not terribly far either. But I wouldn't be surprised if they go to Mount Bachelor or Mount Hood every now and then.
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05-29-2009, 01:44 PM
Location: Eastern Oregon
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Just a quick note. I had a friend who's kid hated AHS, and one with 2 kids in the middle school who loves it. The kids who hated it was low income, single mom, and never fit in.
I also know that almost everyone I knew who had kids who lived in Ashland were older parents, and frequently only had one kid. As a result, the kids there seem very self-centered and quite spoiled, but that'd probably be the case anywhere that has that much wealth. We were "priced out" of the Rogue Valley, and left 3 years ago for Michigan. We've been very happy with our decision.
That said, Ashland does have excellent schools. It's a neat community. And yes, I think most of Southern Oregon is now CA transplants, so you'll be in good company. The hospital I worked with had all but given up recruiting from anywhere other than CA, since that's about the only people who could afford living there anymore. Almost all of our new hires were from CA.
As to artsy, yes Ashland is very artsy, but I don't think that the Shakespeare fest has much to do with the schools, but I could be wrong. Ashalnd did pass an additional tax measure to help out it's schools, where many other communities there rejected similar proposals.
As to Karate, I don't know of any in Ashland, but I'm sure Medford has some. You're more likely to find Yoga than Karate.
Good luck. It's a beautiful place!
06-03-2009, 10:00 PM
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I've lived in Ashland for 10 years and raised a daughter from 5th through 12th grade here. We're California transplants as are many Ashlanders. Some jokingly refer to Ashland as "California North" because it seems like most Ashland residents relocated from CA.
Your son will love the ski/snowboard program at the high school. Mt. Ashland lifts are only about 30 min. drive from town. (The ski/snowboard kids sell Christmas wreaths as a fundraiser every year, very sweet.) The Performing Arts program at the highschool is top notch. Even locals without kids go to the performances because they are that good. Some years, OSF (aka: the Festival, aka: Shakespeare) has parts for children that are cast with local kids. This doesn't happen every year... just check with the Festival.
The schools will welcome your involvement as a parent!!!
Class size, etc: Oregon schools are having a hard time with funding and the high school has shortened some days to 1/2 days, and have fewer school days per year. They are looking at discontinuing some programs like Auto shop. Not sure about the AP classes...but most kids I've known who go to the high school really like it.
The kids: I'm admittedly biased, but I think Ashland kids are great. I disagree with previous posts describing them as elitist or stoners. My daughter has friends that are are hippies, yuppies, artists, intellectuals, nerds, rich kids, poor kids, techies, gay, straight, bi, jocks, rednecks, partiers, straight laced, honor students, etc. and everybody seems to get along. Pot happens but hey, it was a thriving hobby when I was in high school too, so nothing new there.
Most kids aren't from rich families... sure, there are some wealthy folk in town, but lots of young families are just struggling to get by.
My experience of Ashland teens is that they are very welcoming and warm to newcomers and it's easy for new kids to make friends. It's a friendly place and integration should be no problem. The kids here seem to grow up a little slower and stay kids a little longer than California. I think it's a great place for teens!
Diversity: It's hugely lacking diversity. It's strangely white here. A bit of a culture shock coming from California.
Karate: Not sure in Ashland, but definitely yes in Medford (only 15 mins drive)
Come on up! Quality of life is excellent here... you'll be quickly spoiled by the beauty of the Rogue Valley.
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)