Isn't it funny how Californians are kinda viewed like the plague? (Dayton: insurance, houses)

[FloridaMD]

Reading all these different state forums, there seems to be one universal theme: Californians are a dreaded plague/scourge that are to be avoided at all costs. I guess this mindset is probably confined mostly to the western states, as you don't see or hear of too many of them moving towards the East Coast. I know it seems most of them are resented for bringing higher housing costs with them, and a California "attitude", but does seem a bit unfair to them as a whole doesn't it? (I am not a Californian by the way!). Just seems a lot of them are viewed in the same light that we view a lot of the illegal immigrants flooding over our borders. As a group, are they REALLY that bad?

[seashelly]

LOL @ you could start a small war with that post so I'm staying out of it, lol. No comment.

[Beavercreek33]

I can see where you are getting at though. I mean, it takes time I guess. Look at all the people from New York who moved to Florida, Floridians dreaded New Yorkers, now there are Floridians moving to Tennessee, Ohio and Pennsylvania for lower cost of living, and better living standards. New Yorkers were also moving to California, now you find Californians moving to Oregon, Arizona, and Idaho.

I guess the novelty of an area wears off after a while. To me, I see more and more Floridians moving to Cincinnati/Dayton and Columbus. We have an extremely diverse economy in SW Ohio, and we are home to lots of fortune 500 companies, but we also have a very low cost of living. You can get a home on 10 acres and be twice the size of a house in Florida, for the same or lower price here in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Florida is a great place to go on vacation, but I think now many of them are tired of the heat, over-crowding, sprawl, and cost of living. The same could be said for California, and the other areas mentioned to where they are moving to.

An area changes over time, especially one that went through a boom. You grow fast, you enter a bad recession, and your state is very likely to go through a boom/bust period. Its interesting to read people from other states who are all proud of their states' rapid population growth and such, but when the housing market stalls, and water starts to become an issue, the states that were growing at a "normal" rate, all of the sudden look attractive again.

[FloridaMD]

Originally Posted by Beavercreek33

I can see where you are getting at though. I mean, it takes time I guess. Look at all the people from New York who moved to Florida, Floridians dreaded New Yorkers, now there are Floridians moving to Tennessee, Ohio and Pennsylvania for lower cost of living, and better living standards. New Yorkers were also moving to California, now you find Californians moving to Oregon, Arizona, and Idaho.

I guess the novelty of an area wears off after a while. To me, I see more and more Floridians moving to Cincinnati/Dayton and Columbus. We have an extremely diverse economy in SW Ohio, and we are home to lots of fortune 500 companies, but we also have a very low cost of living. You can get a home on 10 acres and be twice the size of a house in Florida, for the same or lower price here in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Florida is a great place to go on vacation, but I think now many of them are tired of the heat, over-crowding, sprawl, and cost of living. The same could be said for California, and the other areas mentioned to where they are moving to.

An area changes over time, especially one that went through a boom. You grow fast, you enter a bad recession, and your state is very likely to go through a boom/bust period. Its interesting to read people from other states who are all proud of their states' rapid population growth and such, but when the housing market stalls, and water starts to become an issue, the states that were growing at a "normal" rate, all of the sudden look attractive again.

I don't know if I would say many people are proud of their states' rapid population growth. I think when that starts to happen, that's when many more people want to get out/flee (like the Californians). The more people there get to be, the more overwhelming social burden there seems to be in the community, which in turn spawns higher taxes, entitlement programs, etc. I don't blame the Californians for wanting to get away from all that. Seems they are powerless to change the rules in their own state, so why not leave.
As for your comments about Florida, I would have to agree. I noticed the New Yorker thing much more when I lived in south Florida. Plenty of old rude blue hairs down there with no manners. Would just as rather spit on you than shake your hand. Was not my bag, so I moved up the coast a little to Melbourne. Much nicer people there for the most part, but what is driving me away is the heat/humidity. I have been down here for 10 years now, and I just can't take the summers anymore. I am ready to go back up north for change in weather and seasons. I even miss the snow!

[Beavercreek33]

Originally Posted by FloridaMD

I don't know if I would say many people are proud of their states' rapid population growth. I think when that starts to happen, that's when many more people want to get out/flee (like the Californians). The more people there get to be, the more overwhelming social burden there seems to be in the community, which in turn spawns higher taxes, entitlement programs, etc. I don't blame the Californians for wanting to get away from all that. Seems they are powerless to change the rules in their own state, so why not leave.
As for your comments about Florida, I would have to agree. I noticed the New Yorker thing much more when I lived in south Florida. Plenty of old rude blue hairs down there with no manners. Would just as rather spit on you than shake your hand. Was not my bag, so I moved up the coast a little to Melbourne. Much nicer people there for the most part, but what is driving me away is the heat/humidity. I have been down here for 10 years now, and I just can't take the summers anymore. I am ready to go back up north for change in weather and seasons. I even miss the snow!

I completely agree. I am orginally from the Philly area, and a lot of my family found themselves moving to the West Palm area (Jupiter, Boca, Stuart) I visit 2-3 times a year, but my sister and brother-in-law and their three kids found themselves moving close to me in Hilliard, Ohio (Columbus suburb) He works for Nationwide Insurance based in Columbus. They love the school system, they had done which most parents do if you want your kids to have a good education in Florida, they had them in a private school. They do really like the change of seasons, the snow and winters are not that bad, as we are not close to Lake Erie, and the economy here is good and growing, but not rapidly. They do not miss the hurricanes and cost of living.

I also had another family member do what you did. They left South Florida and headed for Gainesville. Gainesville is actually very nice. They live on 10 acres in Archer, Florida. Let me tell you, they love it there, and would have never even dreamed of this in West Palm. Its just there is no ocean breeze in Gainesville, and it was 106 there when I was there June 10-24. That humidity and that temparature is too crazy. I was just happy to come back home, flew into Cincinnati, drove my car up I-75 it was 83 out, and had my windows down and the sunroof open. Everyone uses their air conditioning down there, and you really have to. Its the heat.

But I know exactly what you are talking about. I have many friends moving up to this area from Florida. I know five families alone from South Florida and the Gulf Coast that moved to Cincy and work for Procter and Gamble. Florida one of the best vacation spots in my opinion, but living there is a different story. You can enjoy Florida, but in small doses.

Sorry if I took this off topic.

[mamh]

A couple of comments on this..I am a native californian living in oregon and loving it..oregon has and does something californians have forgotten how to do..Thats say "Hi how are you , hows your day going " this to complete strangers..Cal 30 years ago used to be that way..
We moved here 6 years by accident ,full time rver's found a home and never looked back..
My husband is a native new yorker and they simply don't understand anyone from the west coast...We were back there 3 years ago you'd have thought we came from mars...
His family still does..
True there are some Californians, new yorkers and others who haven't learned how to relax and visit here..Florida MD, I know your looking at moving here, come , we will greet you with a smile and welcome, have time to visit a minute or two.
Hope everyone had a safe 4th of july

[Smiled]

Part of it is a standing joke, since 50% of Oregonians are non-native. Another part is that North California and Oregon are quite similar, while South California is culturally much different.

[Huckleberry3911948]

yes they are. why would anybody wana escape a paradise with no winter and endless palm trees to go live in a tick fire ant infested hot box? we cant stand each other and we are trying to escape, have pity.

[angelbug]

Originally Posted by FloridaMD

Reading all these different state forums, there seems to be one universal theme: Californians are a dreaded plague/scourge that are to be avoided at all costs. I guess this mindset is probably confined mostly to the western states, as you don't see or hear of too many of them moving towards the East Coast. I know it seems most of them are resented for bringing higher housing costs with them, and a California "attitude", but does seem a bit unfair to them as a whole doesn't it? (I am not a Californian by the way!). Just seems a lot of them are viewed in the same light that we view a lot of the illegal immigrants flooding over our borders. As a group, are they REALLY that bad?

Yes. There are 38 million of us, and WE'RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME. We all have the same bad attitude, the same amount of money, the same price houses, the same ethnicity, the same religion, the same politics, and the same kind of dog. We're AWFUL.

[FloridaMD]

Originally Posted by angelbug

Yes. There are 38 million of us, and WE'RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME. We all have the same bad attitude, the same amount of money, the same price houses, the same ethnicity, the same religion, the same politics, and the same kind of dog. We're AWFUL.

I know. This thread was really more in jest. 99% of the Californians I have ever met have been very friendly, thoughtful people. I think it's easy to get caught up in that stereotypical Hollywood glam image of the more famous/wealthy Californians (Kardashians anyone? Heidi and Spencer Pratt? Ugh. Who doesn't hate them?). I guess we tend to extrapolate those negative feelings sometimes.