Racial Diversity (Salem: illegal, race)

[oregon_mom7]

Originally Posted by Imperial1904

According to City Data, there are 14.6% Mexicans in Salem with a population of around 150,000.

is your city data updates for 2007 most only go to 2000

[Imperial1904]

You mentioned 20.9% as the county population, whereas the city population of Mexicans is around 14%.

As of the censusGR2 of 2006, there were 150,254 people, 50,676 households, and 32,331 families residing in the city. The population density was 1,156.1/km² (2,994.0/mi²). There were 53,817 housing units at an average density of 454.4/km² (1,176.8/mi²). The racial makeup of the city was 83.07% White, 1.28% African American, 1.51% Native American, 2.41% Asian, 0.47% Pacific Islander, 7.90% from other races, and 3.36% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 14.59% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem,_Oregon#Demographics

County wide:

As of the census² of 2005, there were 305,265 people, 114,641 households, and 70,437 families residing in the county. The population density was 93/km² (241/mi²). There were 108,174 housing units at an average density of 35/km² (91/mi²). The racial makeup of the county was 81.62% White, 0.89% Black or African American, 1.44% Native American, 1.75% Asian, 0.36% Pacific Islander, 10.58% from other races, and 3.35% from two or more races. 17.10% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_County%2C_Oregon

So between 2005 and 2007, there could of been a slight increase in the Mexican population. I know Oregon has its small pockets where there's (in other's opinion) alot of Mexicans. Oregon as a whole, there is very little diversity. The Hispanic/Mexican population for the entire state is just under 10%, Blacks account for just under 2%, Asians under 4%. No one can really say there's any diversity in a state that is 90% white.

[ninakix]

Ummm...need I mention that not all Hispanics/Latinos are Mexican? It just irritates me when people categorize people from different countries all into one. It's like treating Canada, America and England all as the same people, which we aren't. If speaking collectively about people of Hispanic decent, it makes more sense to say "Hispanic" or "Latino" than "Mexican."

[Polish-Pride]

Originally Posted by oregon_mom7

if thats true then why are there more mexicans here then whites????

salem is full of them

They're Illegal's, therefore undocumented.

[Imperial1904]

Originally Posted by ninakix

Ummm...need I mention that not all Hispanics/Latinos are Mexican? It just irritates me when people categorize people from different countries all into one. It's like treating Canada, America and England all as the same people, which we aren't. If speaking collectively about people of Hispanic decent, it makes more sense to say "Hispanic" or "Latino" than "Mexican."

You're right, but on the other hand, if you look into the census, whites are usually classified under "White Non-Hispanic." So this can mean a whole mix of other caucasians but wouldn't change the fact that the area is predominately white.

So the fact that Marion County has 20.9% Hispanic residents would be correct if including other Hispanic races, but the number of actual Mexicans would be a lower number. Thank you for bringing this up by the way. Being from Southern California, I don't know how this slipped my mind, but thank you.

[oregon_mom7]

Originally Posted by Imperial1904

You mentioned 20.9% as the county population, whereas the city population of Mexicans is around 14%.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem,_Oregon#Demographics

County wide:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_County%2C_Oregon

So between 2005 and 2007, there could of been a slight increase in the Mexican population. I know Oregon has its small pockets where there's (in other's opinion) alot of Mexicans. Oregon as a whole, there is very little diversity. The Hispanic/Mexican population for the entire state is just under 10%, Blacks account for just under 2%, Asians under 4%. No one can really say there's any diversity in a state that is 90% white.

if thats true then why every store, fast food pace have all mexicans working there no WHITES i lived in prescott vally az and they had alot of mexicans but here thats all you see yes thers whites here but more mexicans is all im saying do you live in salem

[Imperial1904]

Originally Posted by oregon_mom7

if thats true then why every store, fast food pace have all mexicans working there no WHITES i lived in prescott vally az and they had alot of mexicans but here thats all you see yes thers whites here but more mexicans is all im saying do you live in salem

I don't live in Salem, I've been through it before and have not noticed more Mexicans than whites.

I see Mexicans in Oregon so I know they're here, but I don't see a huge population and I've gone around this state a few times from Klamath Falls to Medford, Grants Pass, Roseburg, Eugene, Portland, Salem, Coos Bay/North Bend and I've never noticed what you (apparently) see.

I have heard that one side of Salem is mainly Mexican. Lots of places have areas where there's a bigger Mexican population but the city of Salem is not ALL Mexican as you seem to think it is.

[searpr]

I've lived in both Oregon and Colorado. If you leave Portland, you're not going to see much diversity. As a matter of fact, if you leave N/NE Portland, you're not going to see much diversity either. I lived in Denver for five years, and I remember being surprised that the whole city and surrounding areas has at least some diversity in it, although not much in some places. I grew up in Portland, BTW. I can't speak for any areas outside of Denver in Colorado.

[Larry Caldwell]

Originally Posted by oregon_mom7

if thats true then why are there more mexicans here then whites????

salem is full of them

The census only counts those who stand still for it. As soon as someone knocks on the front door, all the illegals beat it out the back. The census is lucky if they count 10% of the Mexicans who live here.

[Imperial1904]

Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell

The census only counts those who stand still for it. As soon as someone knocks on the front door, all the illegals beat it out the back. The census is lucky if they count 10% of the Mexicans who live here.

That's kind of unfair to say don't you think?

You're saying, and I'm sure Oregon Mom will agree with you anyway, that all the Mexicans in Oregon or in Salem are all illegal and that the census is lucky enough to only 'catch' 10% of them?