Too many complainers here! (Orlando, Pine Hills: environment, luxury, for sale)

[markhunt]

Originally Posted by fleabugga

WOW, can anyone say RACISM. Lets see you go out into the fields picking beans or other under paid low income job in 99 to 105 heat index that most Americans would think they are beneath doing. Yea This is what you so call illegal, Ghetto not having English as a first language people, thats sad

Ummm... OK, "RACISM". What's the point of that? Are you trying to call me a racist???.....be careful now...

And if there were no illegal* aliens here then these jobs would pay a livable wage and more Americans would fill these jobs. This is one of the main reasons the middle class is disappearing.

Supply and demand. There is a demand for cheap labor and there is plenty of supply.

*ILLEGAL: not according to or authorized by law: UNLAWFUL, ILLICIT (Let's not forget that, and call it like it is)

[backtofla]

"They are definitely part of the equation. And so are a lot of the people who don't have English as a first language, or maybe at all, and have a third world or "ghetto", mentality about them. People who probably couldn't even tell you who the secretary of state for the U.S. is. Or even the vice president....and couldn't care less. People who are here illegally and fill up our emergency rooms because they have a cold and don't have health insurance. Or for that matter, not here illegally, and still fill up our ER's because they have no insurance. I could go on and on, but in a nutshell, people who by my standards of how I was raised and where I was raised, I would consider uncivilized"


your preachin to the choir on this one... and my biggest complaint arent the ones that are illegal.

[sunrico90]

Originally Posted by **NoodLes**

People are going to drive bad and crime is everywhere, so why does the Orlando forum seem to get all the complainers for real. I don't think its necessary every time you see something bad in traffic to come over here and post it and expect us all to be like "yeah you're right, that was messed up, let me tell you what I saw." We can do this everyday, its not going to change. If you don't like it here simply move and if you really want something go talk to your Congressman or Senator because its really annoying, thank you!

To get back on track and recap. High crime and bad drivers the key issues in Orlando. Now lets answer Noodles question: If you don't like it here simply move and if you really want something go talk to your Congressman or Senator because its really annoying, thank you!


Many presented crime, new residents to the area and traffic as their biggest concern and clearly defined their views. Now lets answer the Noodles question, lets see what are you doing to be part of the solution...

Avoid the the flaming, rude or racist comments. Answer the question...

[Stupid Flanders]

Complaining about too many complainers. Hmmm....

[INeedAChange]

methinks thou doth protest too much...

Originally Posted by THASPECIAL

It's not my fault other people lived sheltered lives.....if i get erased on this then there is something wrong....i am being adressed personally with this statement....if they want tp ask a personal question then PM me....otherwise i dont think my response should be erased..

[THASPECIAL]

Its not as simple as 1,2,3, to just move....and running from problems isnt a good thing either....there are people like myself that have moved over 20 times in life and just tired of losing friends and losing the sense of what home is.....There are issues in Orlando and some of us complain maybe but most of us are just telling it like it is....i can tell you there was a murder on my block last week but i havent said a word about how i feel about it so its not really a complaint......

As for telling someone in power to listen to someone that has nothing....well you can only be heard in large groups.....and my words by experience dont have strong enough impact to pull a band of a thousand together to change the laws......When i was hit-n-run the cops did nothing and it was because the dispatcher(s) didnt take my problem serious and this is (my) experience in life along with alot of other people so maybe it isnt as easy to just tell someone to help us out but maybe it is easier for people that go around saying this is what we should do because it worked for them

[Long Island Mermaid]

Originally Posted by VAFury

Did you confuse yourself??? Trying to figure out your reaction to your own post here...

Ha, you are sooo funny! No, I am just technically chaallenged.

[kas1675]

To be honest everyone needs to just live there life. I am 32 and have lived in Orlando for most of my life. I hate it here. In the past five years it has gotten bad. The crime is really bad. I can say that because I do Crime Scene Investigations and every night there is a murder. All of you need to really think hard. Yes everywhere has their crime but Orlando is 7th worst city now. Florida is the 10th worst state to live in but yet everyone still comes here. There must be something people like. It is the weather and that will never change. People always think Florida is great because of the theme parks and lots to do but after you live here you get used to all that and it isn't fun anymore. Let people figure out for themselves. They will once they move here. This is not a place to raise kids that is for sure. It is your choice so don't listen to others but take in their advice because trust me it is true. There are over 18 million people in the state of Florida and over a million in Orange County that is pretty bad. There is no land left really and sooner or later there will be no way someone can live here. It is very expensive. If I could sell my condo right now I would be out of Florida for sure but that is my opinion. Please just take in advice but experience it for youself as many people love it here as you can see.

[backtofla]

to be 3rd or 4th in population, 10th in crime isnt too bad. however, i agree with orlando being bad now, and i did read that we are now the 7th most dangerous city to live in now.

[THASPECIAL]

Originally Posted by kas1675

To be honest everyone needs to just live there life. I am 32 and have lived in Orlando for most of my life. I hate it here. In the past five years it has gotten bad. The crime is really bad. I can say that because I do Crime Scene Investigations and every night there is a murder. All of you need to really think hard. Yes everywhere has their crime but Orlando is 7th worst city now. Florida is the 10th worst state to live in but yet everyone still comes here. There must be something people like. It is the weather and that will never change. People always think Florida is great because of the theme parks and lots to do but after you live here you get used to all that and it isn't fun anymore. Let people figure out for themselves. They will once they move here. This is not a place to raise kids that is for sure. It is your choice so don't listen to others but take in their advice because trust me it is true. There are over 18 million people in the state of Florida and over a million in Orange County that is pretty bad. There is no land left really and sooner or later there will be no way someone can live here. It is very expensive. If I could sell my condo right now I would be out of Florida for sure but that is my opinion. Please just take in advice but experience it for youself as many people love it here as you can see.

This is the balance i was looking for...nice post....Florida is somewhere that people want to live because of beaches, weather, and things to do, but really....there is a worse problem with crime here than in most states in the U.S. overall....of coarse there is bad cities in the U.S. crime wise, but the Whole state of Florida even smaller towns have the elements that the bigger inercities have spread out all over the state in towns throughout Florida....Of coarse NY and L.A. have scary places in alot of parts of thier cities but in Upstate NY you wont see as much crime as Florida cities and towns overall and the same for California