section 8??? in avalon park???

[Guywithacause]

MOJOW I was raised in a single parent (Mom-headed), single income household so I am well aware of the struggles, hardships, and problems first hand. I don't doubt that there are good, hardworking people like you who are genuinely in need and are doing the right thing for themselves, their family, and their community. Clearly there are those of you out there on section 8, welfare, low-income housing, and whatever other government programs. However, there are TOO MANY that are not doing the right thing, and are lazy and not trying to do the right thing....and ALWAYS doing the wrong thing.

So the bottom line is...why would I sift through all of that mess to find the 1 good government subsidized tenant when there are plenty of free market tenants that fit the bill just fine? Unfortunately that is the way it is...which is why I recommend NOT taking section 8 tenants....not worth the trouble or the risk.

[Guywithacause]

Magnulus...if housing prices are going to drop then why do you say now is a good time to buy in Orlando? Why would you buy a house now when you think the prices will only go down for the foreseeable future...unless of course you love losing money!

Using your flawed logic...now would be the WORST time to buy because you think prices are going DOWN....so a logical, normal person would WAIT until prices were going back up again..because then prices have bottomed out and are on the way up again.

You continue to demonstrate how little you know of real estate or any sort of life experience. Your posts are nothing more than more rhetoric based on whatever it is you hear or read about that day....good luck with that.

[natalayjones]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

So the bottom line is...why would I sift through all of that mess to find the 1 good government subsidized tenant when there are plenty of free market tenants that fit the bill just fine? Unfortunately that is the way it is...which is why I recommend NOT taking section 8 tenants....not worth the trouble or the risk.

You can't lump people in bunches like that. Refusing to take tenants is your right, but recommending others not to is based on financial basis is just the same as not wanting someone to live in your property based on race, sex, hair color.

Better not rent to those black kids - they'll grow weed in your back yard.
Better not rent to those Spanish people - they'll move their whole family in an one bedroom apartment.
Better not rent to those Asian people - they'll set up a business in the kitchen.

There's a risk in renting to anyone. I'm sure there are lots of people with great credit, good income, wonderful references and not on section 8 who will trash your place and skip out a lease just the same.

Me personally, I love people like you. When the neighborhood starts letting in the "others" you'll run for another area and leave your property behind, making more room for "others". Pretty soon the "others" will have taken over the block, then the neighborhood and eventually the city. Where do you think those upper middle class minority communties come from?

Mojow, since you are the reason I came back - nice to meet you too. Single Mom's Rock!

[Guywithacause]

You are making many assumptions about me..when all I ask....and what still has not been answered, is WHY WOULD I CHOOSE A SECTION 8 TENANT OVER A FREE MARKET TENANT WITH GOOD CREDIT, JOB HISTORY AND REFERENCES. Still waiting for an answer on that one.

I am no racist, however I don't want the unnecessary gove't bureacracy, and likely problems I will have finding and then renting to a subsidized tenant. A simple mind may equate that with racism..but a reasonable person would not.

Your assumptions about me are entertaining..as I am a person of color (what you call a minority), raised in single parent (mother) household, and I live in a community that is 99.99% people of color. And my belief stands....DONT accept Section 8 or anyother government program. And for the record...middle class people of color come from the same place every other middle class family comes: resourcefulness, education, persistance, team-work, and a bit of luck...NOT praying on white communities to induce "white flight." Moderator cut: personal attack

[natalayjones]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

Your assumptions about me are entertaining..as I am a person of color (what you call a minority), raised in single parent (mother) household, and I live in a community that is 99.99% people of color. And my belief stands....DONT accept Section 8 or anyother government program. And for the record...middle class people of color come from the same place every other middle class family comes: resourcefulness, education, persistance, team-work, and a bit of luck...NOT praying on white communities to induce "white flight." Your assertion is offensive and displays your profound ignorance, lack of self-respect, and gross distortion of something you know little about: people of color.

Which makes it all the more better when you run for the hills.

[Magnulus]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

Magnulus...if housing prices are going to drop then why do you say now is a good time to buy in Orlando? Why would you buy a house now when you think the prices will only go down for the foreseeable future...unless of course you love losing money! ...

You continue to demonstrate how little you know of real estate or any sort of life experience. Your posts are nothing more than more rhetoric based on whatever it is you hear or read about that day....good luck with that.

I said nothing like that. I said "now is not the time to buy in Orlando".

I've got plenty of life experiences, and I don't need to justify them to the likes of you. You are making an ad hominem attack on my arguement, killing the messenger. All these people worried about their precious property values, when they bought into an overvalued market. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that housing values have had very little relationship to wages in Orlando for at least the last 5-7 years.

[mojow]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

So the bottom line is...why would I sift through all of that mess to find the 1 good government subsidized tenant when there are plenty of free market tenants that fit the bill just fine? Unfortunately that is the way it is...which is why I recommend NOT taking section 8 tenants....not worth the trouble or the risk.

Part of the point I was trying to make is that there is more than 1 good government subsidized tenant in "all that mess", and that each landlord I've talked to has had his/her own horror stories concerning tenants of the "free market" variety.

What majority of section 8'ers would you say are riff raff? (Keep in mind, these people have to toe the line, they can't screw up or, if found out, they will be kicked off the system.)

And how can you make an accurate assessment of section 8 when section 8 people are not lumped into one apartment complex? They are scattered. If you hear of 5 cases where section 8 tenants were intolerable, how can you weigh that figure against the ones that are great when you don't HEAR or KNOW about them or how many there are? For every tenant on section 8 that you hear stories about, a landlord can tell that same amount of stories about free market tenants.

2 of my landlords were very happy to have me, and told me how hard it can sometimes be to make on judgement on people inquire about renting. They said some of the tenants that looked like nice responsible abiding citizens caused them a great amount of trouble.

Natalay, good to see you! Single mom's... I hope if I ever make it somewhere higher up on the ladder, that I never forget where I came from!