strip mall and garbage on McCulloch (Oviedo, Seminole: lawyer, housing, low crime)

[Magnulus]

I'm wondering which county McCulloch road is in? Seminole or Orange county?

They are tearing down a bunch of trees to build a strip mall there. Real sad, there is way too much of this garbage going up. People say that Seminole county is so greet but there is plenty of cheap developement going on. This area near Oviedo doesn't need another dry cleaners or nail salon. My dad says its probably just a tax write off for a bunch of lawyers. He's actually thinking about moving because of the amount of garbage that has been built, plus the fact that the stadium near UCF is bringing traffic problems.

[Magnulus]

I'm not too worried about crime out in Oviedo overall. However the fact they are tearing down open space to put up strip malls is not good. I don't think strip malls really add alot in economic activity to justify the traffic mess they could be creating.

They also have an abandoned Winn-Dixie down there that somebody's buying up and going to turn into a student religious convocation center. I guess that's not too bad all things considered but with the new arena there, the traffic situation is horrible on sundays. Why make it like that every day? Floridians are too dumb to figure out you don't block intersections.

[oresident]

Originally Posted by Magnulus

I'm not too worried about crime out in Oviedo overall. However the fact they are tearing down open space to put up strip malls is not good. I don't think strip malls really add alot in economic activity to justify the traffic mess they could be creating.

They also have an abandoned Winn-Dixie down there that somebody's buying up and going to turn into a student religious convocation center. I guess that's not too bad all things considered but with the new arena there, the traffic situation is horrible on sundays. Why make it like that every day? Floridians are too dumb to figure out you don't block intersections.

What are they supposed to do, leave the area around one of the biggest universities in the country empty for the rest of eternity? The people who are dumb are the people living right next to a gigantic university expecting nothing to ever be built. They should be building more around there not less (but walkable stuff, not strip malls).

ores

[Magnulus]

The area wasn't empty, it had trees. Not the palm trees they plant at every strip mall, either. Real native trees.

[compelled to reply]

Doesn't McCulloh straddle the line, if I remember correctly?

[backtofla]

yes, i am not sure if it's seminole or orange cty.

[Magnulus]

He's not worried about crime, not at all. Oviedo is low crime, right now. He is more concened with the strip malls and gas stations taking over, or the fact that traffic is slowly getting worse year after year. The new football stadium at UCF hasn't exactly helped, either. On sunday's McCulloch is a madhouse and it is often backed up now days.

We don't live too close to UCF, actually. About 4 miles away from McCulloch.

[oresident]

Originally Posted by Magnulus

The area wasn't empty, it had trees. Not the palm trees they plant at every strip mall, either. Real native trees.

Yeah but you do understand what I'm saying right? I'm not anti-tree. I love trees, and I agree with you 100% that stip-mall palm trees are obnoxious. But we're talking about the immediate surrounding area to a massive university. It should NOT turn into a bunch of strip malls. It should turn into walkable, pedestrian-friendly businesses and housing. But to believe that an area like that is destined to remain a bunch of trees is naive and unrealistic. The issue is whether or not they build it up intelligently.

You know a lot of the traffic problems are because people don't have anywhere to go to eat or play without literally driving there. As soon as you add more stuff right next to campus, traffic goes down, not up. The campus has a huge population during the day and a growing one by night. Do you want all those people driving every time they do something?

ores

[compelled to reply]

The strip mall palm trees down here are swanky. Maybe it the earth warms enough you will get those royal palms!

[Magnulus]

UCF has alot of stuff on campus, alot of stuff that didn't use to be there. Lots of shops and restaurants.

Few are going to walk across McCulloch on foot. It won't matter what they build, the curve radii are too big and the street is too wide for pedestrians. The only time I've seen people crossing the street there is one sunday when they were having a football game, and that's probably because the *******s parked inside a neighborhood.