Why (transient)

[LizS]

the9thWonder, please explain to me why the people who were born and raised here were rude to me when I was nothing but polite to them? The people I worked with (30) were FLORIDA NATIVES as they made it clear to me each and every day how they dislike yanks and hate everything above the mason-dixon line (although most admitted that they were never actually visited anyplace above the mason-dixon line). Do you know what I did to tick them off? I said hello, my name is Liz. They heard my "accent", asked where I'm from and proceeded to tell me how rotten NY/NJ is and everything from there as well. I'm from there, I would never say something like that to anyone. When I worked in Maitland (the job with the rude NATIVES was Astatula), I worked with people from all over and not one of them were rude to me. This is just my experience, one which continues to baffle me. By the way, at least people in NY and NJ actually stop for red lights. Floridians believe it's merely a suggestion.

[bdpop]

And people from NY/NJ go when the light turns green!

[msaRick]

I grew up in Florida, and as an adult, I have been fortuanate enough to travel a bit. After hearing about rude northerners, left-coasters, and foreign people all through my formative years, imagine my surprise when I noticed that the people I met in NY, San Francisco, San Diego, and Australia all were generally freindlier and more outgoing than people in my native Florida. I still notice the difference now that I'm back. I wish I knew why. People just seem a little more hostile here.

As a side note, it seems as though those most critical of non-natives seem to be those who have never been to the places they claim to despise.

[redrose74]

Originally Posted by LizS

I have to say that one of the friendliest places I ever went to was Atlanta. It's become a big melting pot and both the native born and the relocators were warm and welcoming. I was considering moving there but the drought they are experiencing has me having second thoughts.

Hi LizS,
I am a FL native raised in Orlando. I am getting ready to move to Atlanta in less than 3 weeks from the Orlando area. I agree with you, about how friendly the people are in the Atlanta area. I have been visiting Atlanta for years and have been wanting to move there and am finally taking the plunge! They certainly do have that southern hospitality and warm welcoming charm about them. Somehow a lot of that gets lost after you get down into Florida. It is such a shame. I know there are the exceptions, you can find friendly people in Orlando, just like you can find rude people in Georgia, but overall, I felt much more friendliness coming from the people in the Atlanta area. I know they are having the drought problems, but please continue to think of Atlanta as a place to live. I know I am so excited and feel I am making the right choice.

please explain to me why the people who were born and raised here were rude to me when I was nothing but polite to them? The people I worked with (30) were FLORIDA NATIVES as they made it clear to me each and every day how they dislike yanks and hate everything above the mason-dixon line (although most admitted that they were never actually visited anyplace above the mason-dixon line). Do you know what I did to tick them off?

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. It is bred into us at a young age that everyone in NY is rude and that the people in the New England area are snobs and that they are ready to mug you if you don't watch your back. I use to think this, too, only because I was taught to. It is called being very closed minded and uniformed. I had never been to NY but formed my opinion on what others around me told me. It was not until I started traveling and meeting people from the north did I finally realize the truth of things. Yes, it is usually people who have never been to those places who form their *wrong* opinions. I still struggle with my friends and family here in FL that have never got out and traveled and experienced the world. I tell them I am going to move to Atlanta, the first thing they say, oh no, why would you want to move there with all that crime and such. They live in their own little world and don't know the realities outside their circle. All I can say is to consider the source, I have learned to ignore the comments from my friends and family who have never lived anywhere else or in the areas I love.

[kinglouix]

It's a phenomenon known as New York envy. People from a place known for nothing and offering nothing hostile about a place known for everything. A single block in NYC has more to offer in than 100 Orlando's could ever have and that is upsetting to people raised and stuck in the cesspool. Mostly because they know Orlando (possibly once a nice place to live) now has every single big city problem to an extreme but absolutely none of the benefits (due to poor planning and greed). Have you ever gone to any other place on earth where a sign says "Orlando style" yet on every block in Orlando there is some miserable failed attempt to emulate New York. The end result is an angry rage induced individual who has nowhere to turn other than lash out others more fortunate to be somewhere else. In a new article today Orlando was ranked as the 11th most crime riddled city in the Country and number one in Florida. Orlando is ranked 11th or 100th or 1000th in anything worth while or positive.

[markhunt]

Originally Posted by kinglouix

It's a phenomenon known as New York envy. People from a place known for nothing and offering nothing hostile about a place known for everything. A single block in NYC has more to offer in than 100 Orlando's could ever have and that is upsetting to people raised and stuck in the cesspool. Mostly because they know Orlando (possibly once a nice place to live) now has every single big city problem to an extreme but absolutely none of the benefits (due to poor planning and greed). Have you ever gone to any other place on earth where a sign says "Orlando style" yet on every block in Orlando there is some miserable failed attempt to emulate New York. The end result is an angry rage induced individual who has nowhere to turn other than lash out others more fortunate to be somewhere else. In a new article today Orlando was ranked as the 11th most crime riddled city in the Country and number one in Florida. Orlando is ranked 11th or 100th or 1000th in anything worth while or positive.

Your preaching to the choir here.

Here is a link to the statistics that came out today for which you speak of:

CQ Press: Media City Crime 2007

I just love how Orlando with a population slightly over 200,000 is number 11 on the most dangerous cities list, and New York with a population of over 8,000,000 is number 237. No doubt partly because of that poor planning and greed you speak of (amongst other things).

[LizS]

I also want to make it clear, while Florida is not for me, it is just my opinion based on my experiences. Even with the crime that I find disturbing, my sister loves it here and just shrugs her shoulders when the news reports their murder (or 2 or 3) of the day.

RedRose74: Good luck with your move!! I still love Atlanta and I am considering it, but I miss the cold weather and snow (yeah, I'm a little quirky like that!) so I am checking out other areas as well.

[Forum Extraordinaire]

Originally Posted by kinglouix

It's a phenomenon known as New York envy. People from a place known for nothing and offering nothing hostile about a place known for everything. A single block in NYC has more to offer in than 100 Orlando's could ever have and that is upsetting to people raised and stuck in the cesspool. Mostly because they know Orlando (possibly once a nice place to live) now has every single big city problem to an extreme but absolutely none of the benefits (due to poor planning and greed). Have you ever gone to any other place on earth where a sign says "Orlando style" yet on every block in Orlando there is some miserable failed attempt to emulate New York. The end result is an angry rage induced individual who has nowhere to turn other than lash out others more fortunate to be somewhere else. In a new article today Orlando was ranked as the 11th most crime riddled city in the Country and number one in Florida. Orlando is ranked 11th or 100th or 1000th in anything worth while or positive.

Umm, no. NY envy? You think the ppl of the Southeast really envy NY? I have been all over the Southeast, and trust me, they are not jealous or envious of NY. HAHAHA!!! Interesting enough, I meet people everyday from NY, that move down here. Isnt that something?!?

Now some of the things you mentioned about Orlando, I agree with. I live here, but not too thrilled about it. LOL.

[Forum Extraordinaire]

Mark Hunt, this is done on a per capita basis. The number of people is taken into consideration. In fact, it is a huge component!

[kinglouix]

Originally Posted by Forum Extraordinaire

Umm, no. NY envy? You think the ppl of the Southeast really envy NY? I have been all over the Southeast, and trust me, they are not jealous or envious of NY. HAHAHA!!! Interesting enough, I meet people everyday from NY, that move down here. Isnt that something?!?

Now some of the things you mentioned about Orlando, I agree with. I live here, but not too thrilled about it. LOL.

Not everyone has NY envy, just the ones that automatically bash everything from NY or other NE states. As far as New Yorkers moving here, most came for a lower cost of living that no longer exists. The others are transients who used NY as a link to come to America as a means of escaping there own; criminals with no decency or value for human life.