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Old 02-04-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Quit whining and grow yourself a set. Upset because everything wasn't delivered to you on a platter? Amazing how in less than a century, this country has gone from people persevering through world wars, The Great Depression, The Dust Bowl, SIMULTANEOUSLY, to this whiny dude. Wah!
I am come on man, I used to walk 5 miles to school every day in a blizzard up hill just to get to class. This generation is so soft lol
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:31 AM
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I'll admit I'm certainly not living large at $14 an hour, but I'm not starving or struggling to pay my bills either....when I had that job I was taking home $75-$150 a day in cash tips. I'll probably take up a job at one of the casinos on the strip as I did before....I've applied at Rosen, tons of I-Drive restaurants and bars, the Hyatt Regency (formerly the Peabody) Hilton, etc...and I either heard back NOTHING or was told my experience was inadequate (how the hell is experience at a 5star 5 diamond resort on the Las Vegas strip not adequate in Orlando?)

Anyways the point is, I could do those same jobs here in Orlando but they don't pay nearly as well (the "tipped minimum wage" is pure BS imo) the tips would not be as good and I never get calls back from them anyway...and when I do I get told they wont hire me
OK, but what are these jobs going to do for you in terms of providing a better future? Doesn't really make a difference if you're still working these kinds of jobs 20 years from now. Surely you can move up in one of these companies.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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I am come on man, I used to walk 5 miles to school every day in a blizzard up hill just to get to class. This generation is so soft lol
you walked? I had to jog.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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I made a conscious choice not to go to college when I graduated high school in 2008 as the global economy was imploding all around us. I recognized back then that going to college and borrowing a ton of money for a degree that wouldn't guarantee me a job when I graduate would not be a prudent decision....I didnt know what I wanted to study either and I didn't want to be one of those people who changed their major 57 times

A lot of my friends in high school went to college and graduated in 2012...most of them did not get jobs in their prospective fields...and those who did are not making much more than I am (I earn $10.25 an hour at my current job) the ones who didnt are working their same jobs they held throughout high school and college and are not making much more than me, and they're paying their student loans on top of it (and cannot afford their own homes/apartments and are living with their parents)

My sister graduated college this past year and earns $48,000 a year in her job...after she was hired she spent $30,000 on a car, rents a $1,200 dollar apartment, financed a whole bunch of furniture from Rooms to Go, and now that shes paying her student loans she is just as broke as I am

Sorry I'll pass on that kind of slavery type debt. I'd rather work my way up the ranks in whatever field I find myself in....to learn about it...become an expert and make good money without a $100,000 piece of paper

I realize I'm not perfect and I have made more than my share of mistakes at work, but I am still unsatisfied with where I am at in life and I wish to change it....and for me school wont do it...I'd rather be out there earning a living than sitting in some classroom taking notes listening to some liberal professor who doesn't even practice what they teach

I've also come to realize I need a new circle of friends...those who are closest to me don't have jobs and don't seem to be motivated to get them either...and when they do they quit them without finding another one first simply because they "didnt like it" one such friend has done this twice already and he has a toddler to feed

PS Sorry if it seems like I'm knocking formal education...but I don't feel its for me...self education earns a fortune and is much more cost effective than a formal education that will simply earn you a living

I understand your perspective, and in some ways you are correct. Paying $100,000 for a liberal arts education isn't a particularly good investment. But you need to open your mind to other forms of education. There is a lot more out there than just traditional college. Tons of vocational training - computers, health care, heating/air conditioning, beauty industry, massage therapy, medical transcription, court reporting, just to name a very few off the top of my head. You could also get into sales. Many sales jobs don't require a degree, as good salespeople are good salespeople and you don't really learn that in academia. Salespeople are among those that make the most out in the marketplace. And if you're good, believe you me, your level of formal education will be the last thing they are interested in. You need to start somewhere though and you might not make a lot in the beginning, and it's VERY important you go somewhere that has good sales training. But once you have good training and have achieved some good results, then the world is pretty much your oyster.

I happen to be able to type 85 wpm and was always able to get a really good paying temp job because of that. I was making $14/hr back in college (early 80's - and that was a LOT at that time - min wage was like $3 or something like that) as a temp because my typing skills were so good. It's what paid for my college education - I worked all summer every year as a temp (while my friends were out at the beach having fun on summer vacation....). People will pay for skills. Get yourself some skills in something. My snobby friends in HS who took AP everything made fun of me for taking typing in school. But I never regretted that training, as it has served me very, very well in my lifetime. Even though I'm not paid to type now, it still helps me so much in my current job - I can whip out emails and letters very fast.

Yes, the most difficult part is figuring out just what you want to do/be. I struggled with that myself. I wouldn't say I'm in my dream job at this point in my life, and I don't get up excited to go to work every day, but I am good at what I do, and I make a very nice living with a lot of good compensating factors (i.e working at home) so I'm not willing to give that up at this point. But that's a choice I have made, and I'm not really "stuck", except to the degree that keeping my current lifestyle still trumps my desire to love my job. I'm also much older than you (with retirement looming in the not-so-distant future) so starting over at this point isn't so attractive, but if I had known at your age what I know now, I would totally have sucked it up and done the work to go do what I love.

But you can definitely get some more education without going to "college". Start looking around. Start thinking about what you like to do and what you're good at and and see if you can't parlay that into something else. And don't turn up your nose at getting some additional education of some kind. There are online courses and all kinds of options to learn. You really do have to do some work (like the rest of us) to get what you want. It's not going to come to your house and ring the doorbell and present itself to you. And stop being mad about the fact that life doesn't work that way. It won't help you.

Oh, and with regard to your sister, she's only broke because she made DUMB decisions. No one needs a $30K car. Nor did she need all new furniture from Rooms to Go. $48K isn't a bad starting wage, and she could be living much more easily if she had made some better choices. So don't point to her as some kind of good example for not getting an education - clearly she didn't take any life skills or money management classes...

My last suggestion: Talk to some older adults whose opinions you value (not your goofy friends). People who know you pretty well. Ask them what they think you would be good at. You will be surprised to hear what they suggest. I found my way into my current career like that. I argued with the person who told me what they thought I should be doing, and it scared me because it was so far removed from what I thought I wanted to do, but I took their advice and took a leap of faith and it was the best thing I ever did. I was good at what they suggested from the very first day, and I moved up very, very quickly.

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Old 02-04-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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I am come on man, I used to walk 5 miles to school every day in a blizzard up hill just to get to class. This generation is so soft lol
Yes, but did you have to walk barefoot?
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Windermere, FL
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Eh, I got you all beat…. I lived in south Florida, so you totally know I had to fend off alligators on the way to school.
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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I grew up in Alaska, so I beat all of you fighting polar bears, grizzly bears, wolves, through 6 feet of snow!
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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Eh, I got you all beat…. I lived in south Florida, so you totally know I had to fend off alligators on the way to school.

yea me too.
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Old 11-24-2016, 01:19 AM
 
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Orlando is a horrible place- don't listen to the orlando residents. The kind of people that like orlando are fake weirdos.
orlando might be the worst city in the world- because of the terrible weird gutter trash people that live there. Ive never dealt with such rude, unfriendly jerks in my life. if the people like you, they will start harassing you in different ways rather than saying hi or getting to know you. I'm not sure if the people of orlando are humans or not- many seem to be demons or something- the place is like a parallel universe- just low class freaks live there.

Orlando has only unfriendly losers there. Most people there are garbage. Other cities aren't as bad- I really think the entire central florida area is terrible. As a pretty woman, I get harassed and mistreated in orlando daily. The males are all misogynists who hate pretty women and treat them like crap- so dating isn't possible. There are many women who talk about how hard it is to meet a guy in orlando, and many even turn lesbian. All the males there are freaks. I really think it's all, and not even most. Just jerks, losers, a**holes and sociopaths, or arrogant jerks. Everytime I go to walmart I get harassed in orlando or stalked by the creepy crazy weirdos there. If you are pretty, you will just get abused and harassed that's it. No one is nice or friendly, just angry mean rude people who are full of hate and jealousy. I went to a walmart in tampa and all the men were flirting with me. In jacksonville, it's easy to make friends- NORMAL people live in jacksonville, not in orlando. Orlando really is a city full of the biggest nastiest jerks and freaks to exist. Someone I know from texas, his son came with him, and the son said hi to me and was friendly. Wow lol. I was shocked. In orlando- NO ONE is friendly. It is some kind of hell on earth- even children are rude weirdos. the residents of orlando are a mix between these average nasty uneducated plain boring white trash losers, and these low class hispanic jerks, or low class black people. Trust me when I say it is a HORRIBLE place. really bad weird people live there- I mean just weirdos. The kinds you think would live in fargo, nd or something- those are the kind of weirdos and creeps you find in orlando.

I go to these meetup groups. One ive been going to for years. The losers there bully or mistreat me b/c im beautiful and nice or treat me weird. In other cities, when you join something people are friendly nice and normal. Not orlando. In orlando they'll be nice to you if you're average or a loser. If you are smart, pretty or have talent or something they will just be jealous of you. Orlando is full of inferior low class sh*t people. When i say sh*t people I mean the worst. In other cities, there are rude people- but you can find great people there also. not in orlando. Orlando is full of degenerates and if you are a great person you will be mistreated or abused by all the low class freaks of that city. I met more people in one day in washington DC and one day in jacksonville than I did in orlando in 15 years- and that's really scary. There are people who move here and say the same thing "well I do everything alone, no one wants to do anything." no sh*t really? welcome to orlando idiot- that's life in orlando- basically being unable to meet people b/c it's not possible. I knew a girl from college who would cry daily b/c she couldn't make any friends, and another girl who almost started crying b/c she said she made only 2 friends in two years. Again WELCOME to orlando- that's what it's like there. Everyone that comes to orlando seems to be struggling to meet people.

Ive been on 500+ dates in orlando- im a drop dead gorgeous female, kind caring compassionate, educated cool and down to earth, no kids, never married. In 15 years of going on dates in craplando, ive managed to make maybe 10 friends out of those dates- not really friends, just guys trying to get in my pants. There was one guy who wanted a relationship maybe or he just wanted to get sex. Oh yeah, i can safely say no man in orlando wants a beautiful kind female- nope. Just freaks in that city, weirdos and psychopaths. I can't get into the stories of the freaks I did meet. No guy wants a relationship. I knew a girl who was from some other states- and she too would see a couple and say "how did they meet"?? she too was baffled as to how people meet in orlando--b/c she couldn't meet any guys. She said in other cities it was much easier.

Don't get me started on the insane drivers- everyone knows orlando has the WORST and dumbest drivers period. There are 2 times when psychos in orlando speed up-

1. during a rainstorm- so they can create not so safe situations
2. When they cut you off, and get in front of you and drive super slow, adn you get in the next lane to pass them- THEN they speed up to try to stop you from passing them

This is so common in orlando, even my friend from colorado noticed it, and said in colorado, they don't care who's driving where, but here the idiots race you..
yup, of course--they are low class gutter trash freaks.

You're happily driving, and some IDIOT cuts you off--not because they have to make a turn or do something- just to cut you off. Then they start driving
really slow. You're pissed.

You get in the next lane to pass them--then they start SPEEDING up--literally so fast you have to go about 60 or more just to pass them b/c now you're
racing some crazy orlando retard, who really just wants to bother and harass drivers for fun and then create dangerous situations..
This happens all the time in orlando at least once an hour or more.

Today I had something new happen. There was some worthless orlando idiot reject driving near me, and as i sped up, he would speed up with me.
But when I would slow down, he slowed down too. He was just next to me, harassing me. Other cars came and passed us, but this retard just wanted to bother me
so i sped up again and he began speeding up with me. I slowed down, and he did- i honked at him many times..i was really upset. He was just in the next lane
kind of stalking me. This happened for a while--he'd then pass me, and slow down but when I finally sped up, there he was speeding right with me.
I finally had to turn in a lane furious. I guess this is a new thing the orlando idiots are doing now. Have never experienced that bullsh*t in other places.

In a rainstorm- the mentally ill orlando rejects will begin honking at you if you're driving slow and trying to be safe, they'll speed up honk at you
and speed off.. they also honk at anyone who's a good driver, while any bad drivers or idiots are allowed to do what they want. they stick up for their own
kind- classless sh*t, stupid people and morons..

the idiots of orlando are rude angry bitter classless trash- stupid crazy rude people.

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Old 11-24-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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I don't think anyone disagrees that the people are not Orlandos best attribute. As far as people, much worse than Asheville NC. But I have to keep telling myself many ppl are good people, and it's a much bigger city than Asheville so the rudeness/angriness is going to be more common here than there. But damn, some ppl in Orlando absolutely suck. It's like the biggest pieces of trash from NY/NJ and foreign countries came here and has taken over any normalcy that remained from he early to mid 90s. This place will never be the same. It will never go back to its prime, those days are gone. Only will get worse, just a matter of how long the normal folks can stand it before getting exhausted from it and moving to NC.
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