Will Orlando simply become another Miami? (house, college, wages)

[bmw335xi]

Most of my family are immigrants and I'd say half of my friends are also immigrants. What CNN and Democrats are trying to do and they have been successful is blend the line between illegal alien and immigrant. There is no difference to them now. "How dare you say we should deport those who entered the country illegally, why do you hate immigrants so much!" That is the typical narrative these days. One of my friends has been going through the process for 10 years to get his green card. Why are Democrats fighting so hard to streamline in-state tuition, benefits, etc to people who essentially cut the line and didn't pay their entrance fee. Anyone who immigrated to this country can tell you the long and expensive process it is that is so backed up they end up having to switch lawyer after lawyer after lawyer. It's not fair to them and it clogs up our legal immigration system.



Most illegals are not working six figure jobs, they are working under the table, finding employers who are willing to undercut residents and citizens, so they don't have to pay payroll tax, etc. I 100% believe today, there is a large number of Democrats both voters and politicians that want to open the flood gates. Heck, some cities will protect the identity of illegal criminals. What kind of message do you think that sends? Passing in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Saying we won't let the Feds get you. It's basically an invitation, hey come over here, if you are able to make it through, you're home free. Illegal immigration has plummeted under Trump and coyotes charge many multiples more than what they used to charge because word has gotten out that the US isn't tolerating illegal immigration anymore. Then you have all the Democrats screaming for illegals and so we got that convoy of 1,000+ people brazen enough to announce they are going to illegally enter the country. As Trump said, ultimately, don't enter the country illegally if you don't want to get split up. That's what I give credit to Trump for, he is willing to do what needs to be done even though it will make most of the world hate him. In some areas I think he went too far, but nonetheless, he is doing what needs to be done for the country and not being PC about.



Remember during the debates, they asked Clinton, would you tell NATO they need to increase their contributions since we pay the overwhelming majority of the expenses or else you would consider leaving NATO. What does she say, "I would ask them to pay more, but if they don't want to, I wouldn't change anything" Well duh, I wonder what would have happened. NATO is increasing their contributions. If Clinton were president, they wouldn't have, the US would have footed the increase. Anyways, that's a whole other issue lol.



One more thing to add, the Left in my opinion has pushed things way beyond reason. Wanting to abolish ICE for one... ICE has put away thousands of violent gang members and combats things like human trafficking as well. To abolish them is 100% political games and just flat out extreme.

[firmbizzle]

Originally Posted by Branal

We have spy satellites that can find a needle in a haystack. So we can find those who overstayed their visa and put them in jail where they belong. And then deport them forever.

All we need is the will to do it.

Nah, no thanks. They can stay. Welcome.

[Branal]

Originally Posted by firmbizzle

Nah, no thanks. They can stay. Welcome.

No, no. They can exit the US and then do it the right way, through immigration, if they want to live here. And for the ones who won't...I hope hope Trump goes after these visa frauds after he gets done with the illegals.

It's too bad that Venezuela and Brazil are dumps but they're not our problem.

And...Brazilian tourists are screwing up Disney theme park by being too loud and running people over. We don't need more of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ5Cac-D8LE

[Branal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYBpN0VkVk

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by Branal

No, no. They can exit the US and then do it the right way, through immigration, if they want to live here. And for the ones who won't...I hope hope Trump goes after these visa frauds after he gets done with the illegals.

It's too bad that Venezuela and Brazil are dumps but they're not our problem.

And...Brazilian tourists are screwing up Disney theme park by being too loud and running people over. We don't need more of that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ5Cac-D8LE

Mmmmmmm Brazilian chicks...
Brazilians can stay.

[jveltriple7]

Originally Posted by 83austin83

In many ways though it's the same thing here. We are getting an influx of Puerto Ricans evacuating the island after Hurricane Maria. Yes its a US territory and they are US citizens but you can't deny the fact that their culture is very different than the mainstream American culture.

Puerto Ricans overall have far more in common with Cubans in Miami than they do with white Americans in other parts of the US. Also, a lot of Puerto Ricans and even some Cubans are coming to Orlando from Miami because Miami has become so overcrowded.

I'm not saying I have an issue with it, but as we saw with Miami if whites become an extreme minority many areas then become "no go zones" for whites. Whites can sadly become easy targets of crime.

So in your opinion you don't think Orlando will become the next Miami? You don't think Orlando and Orange County will ever get down to 13.2% white or lower (the percentage in Miami and Miami-Dade County)?

Damn you sound scared!!! LOL

Perhaps this is how many minorities have felt in most American cities plus small & large towns. Why does it seem like non-white immigrants and now even non-white U.S. citizen migration appear to be a problem? No one worries about white flight or any flight except white people in general. Yes, I am excluding the open-minded cool white people. All others seem to make it a science when the rest of the world calls it co-existence. This is why America just can't seem to make it past the color / cultural difference.

Only white people create "no go zones" for whites as well as "no go zones" for people of color. This is nuts. Why not try cross-cultural adaptation.

Spanish speaking in Florida? Well since the early to mid 1500's Florida was Spain's territory and though briefly UK owned it in 1760 for about 20 yrs it was later returned to Spain. I mean what would one expect with a name like FLORIDA and the like what would one expect. I keep hearing the argument about English being the national language but that has been debunked many times. There is no official language in the United States, it's just that English is the common language like in many other countries that have multiple languages and dialects spoken.

[jveltriple7]

Originally Posted by 83austin83

I agree and disagree with that. I could see Downtown, Lake Eola and Baldwin Park go majority hispanic. Heck I was just downtown last week and walked around Lake Eola, I heard a lot of Spanish and saw a pretty big mix of people (probably 40% Hispanic, 20% Black, 20% White and 20% Other, just a rough estimate). I do agree that Thornton Park and Audubon Park would take a lot longer to go majority hispanic. Winter Park would definitely be the last area to go majority hispanic. In fact Winter Park would probably be like parts of Miami Beach, a little majority white area in an area that is predominately hispanic.

There are a lot of Spanish speaking tourist who visit from Europe, Caribbean, Central & South America as well but doesn't necessarily mean there will be an "INVASION" like the Orange Moron Occupying the Oval Office likes to spout off about.

[jveltriple7]

Originally Posted by Branal

Yes. You can see what it will be like by looking at Osceola. Once folks like this are running Orange Cty government, what do you think will happen:

June Trzcinka was fired by Osceola County Clerk of Court Armando Ramirez after refusing to work weekend events - Orlando Sentinel

Ooooh... There is a boogie man under your bed,,,,RUN!!!! ahahahahaha

[Branal]

Originally Posted by jveltriple7

I mean what would one expect with a name like FLORIDA and the like what would one expect.

Are you joking?

[jveltriple7]

Originally Posted by walmill

Never heard of the Miami area by and large being a no-go area for "whites". Of course there will be rough areas,as with any other city. But just becaise your friend went to a laundromat in the projects doesn't mean the entire county had a target over his head. IF the story is even true stories always get sensationalized when a buddy tells you what he did.
Not sure I believe a random cop escorted your friend out of a neighborhood simply becaise of his appearance.
And even IF the story is factual and not exaggerated, that's like saying whites cant go to San Antonio after the stolen MAGA hat incident. One event does not make thr born.

Yeah no kidding. It was probably a security guard the golfer lifted a ride from. People get so scared and exaggerate so much when it comes to minority majority neighborhoods. lol