What does Orlando need to make it a wolrd class city? (Miami: amusement parks, condo)

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by annerk

If the bus routes create a comprehensive mass transit system, then yes they do.

We definately have different definitions of what "World Class" means then...

[annerk]

Originally Posted by Rhett_Butler

We definately have different definitions of what "World Class" means then...

I know what a "word-class" city is. Frankly I'm not sure I want Orlando to go that route. Would I like to see improvements? Sure, absolutely, especially in terms of attracting businesses that will bring high paying jobs, and becoming less dependent on tourism.

But most world-class cities suffer from over crowding, pollution, high costs of living, traffic congestion, long waits at hospitals, etc., etc, etc. NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Toronto, London, the list goes on. They all have the same problems Orlando does, just on a larger scale. Frankly I moved here because I wanted to live near a medium sized city that had all the amenities I needed within an hours drive. If I wanted to live near a giant metropolis, I would have stayed in NJ and still be working in NYC.

High speed rail is not the end all be all solution to Orlando's problems. They would be better off using that money to attract industries that will create permanant, high paying jobs, not temporary construction and then low paying transit positions.

[rogercobb]

Anyone who bought a huge home and was making 20 to 30K got what they deserved.

They had no business doing that. It is not everyone's right to own a home.[/quote]

Very well said. I wish more people felt this way.

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by annerk

High speed rail is not the end all be all solution to Orlando's problems. They would be better off using that money to attract industries that will create permanant, high paying jobs, not temporary construction and then low paying transit positions.

Infrastructure and such is what attracts these businesses though. Again, your area is going to grow whether you like it or not... Traffic was and is a growing concern. More buses ain't the solution, but I'll leave that for you to discover.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by Rhett_Butler

Infrastructure and such is what attracts these businesses though. Again, your area is going to grow whether you like it or not... Traffic was and is a growing concern. More buses ain't the solution, but I'll leave that for you to discover.

Growth has slowed, and the people who live here are happy about it. At this point there's a strong push on our government officials to stop new growth, and the people are telling them that they will be voted out if they don't.

Again, the people who live in Lake County work in Lake County. They ahve no desire to work in Orlando. The people who live here do so because they wanted a more rural way of life, and didn't want to be part of a megalopolis. You don't live here, and you have already proven to have no idea about how people in this area make a living.

I can guarantee light rail would be fought tooth and nail, just like the Minneola race track is going to be, and just like the extension of Stoney Brook was. Lake County has a large, powerful, and very vocal voting bloc, and attempts by surrounding counties to meddle in our way of life will not be tolerated.

[Rhett_Butler]

People moved out to Clermont for more affordable housing during the boom. "Rural way of life" had VERY little to do with it. There certainly ARE rural areas of Lake County, don't get me wrong, but Clermont ain't one of 'em...

Hint: Landscape dotted with cookie-cutter subdivisions on the hillsides isn't "rural".

Anyway, if you can keep further development from occurring out there more power to you... Crap like what happened to Clermont is a large part of what's been wrong with the growth of Metro Orlando....

[annerk]

Again you show your ignorance in regard to the area and those who live there. How many people do you know who live in Lake County?

[Rhett_Butler]

Originally Posted by annerk

Again you show your ignorance in regard to the area and those who live there. How many people do you know who live in Lake County?

Please, tell me where I'm "ignorant".... I don't have to know the "100" people that you supposedly know there to know what's "rural" and what isn't.....

But you're pretty typical.... Move out further to get away from the throngs of people and then adamantly oppose growth when more people wish to come to your area for the same..... ie... Now that you've found your spot you don't want others to move in and ruin it for you... It's classic really.... Bet you whine about and oppose the building of any new subdivision, but bought a NEW house in a NEW subdivision when YOU moved out there, right???

FWIW I know/knew several families who live in the Clermont area and commute up to Sanford/Lake Mary..... Why??? Because the better areas in Seminole were NOT AFFORDABLE at the time they bought and areas like Clermont and Apopka were..... (Why they didn't go to DeBarry or Deltona is beyond me, but I didn't ask why...).

But I know..... You're the only one who has REAL perspective on the heartbeat of Lake County....

[Rhett_Butler]

Either way, I can't believe I'm arguing one way or another about Clermont of all places.... The whole area to me was always a blight on what WAS a nice rural landscape. ... (Though I guess some still think it IS rural... )...

I'll drop this on my end because I truly don't care whether Clermont EVER gets rail service.

[annerk]

You obviously don't know much about Clermont, if you'd actually ever take the time to drive around you'd find that over half of it is still rural with orange groves and horse farms.