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Old 02-11-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: New York, NY, USA
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What do you guys think about the latest victim gunned down by a stalker/looser in Orlando, a waitress at HOOtters, and what are your thoughts on the judge that refused to sign an order of protection for this young woman? Thank you,

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Old 02-11-2010, 04:10 PM
 
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The judge followed the law. The victim didn't present evidence to the judge to prove that she was in danger, and even if there had been a restraining order--do you really think someone hell-bent on murder suicide would ahve paid an ounce of attention to it?

If she were truly in fear for her personal safety, a carry permit and handgun would have been a more suitable solution.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Winter Garden Florida
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If she were truly in fear for her personal safety, a carry permit and handgun would have been a more suitable solution.
Absolutely agree!! Well said.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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The judge followed the law. The victim didn't present evidence to the judge to prove that she was in danger, and even if there had been a restraining order--do you really think someone hell-bent on murder suicide would ahve paid an ounce of attention to it?
How much evidence does one need?
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Just days earlier, Moxley had refused to grant Blanton a petition for an emergency injunction to keep Troy away from her and her family, even though she provided nearly 70 pages of harassing emails Troy sent her (read emails). In one of the last ones, sent January 29, Troy said he had driven past her house and thought the color of it was ugly.
Judge's History Questioned After Stalker Murders Woman - News Story - WFTV Orlando Of course, a gun is also good to have.
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:37 AM
 
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How much evidence does one need?
Obviously more than she had. It's part of due process--the thing that makes this country different from say China.

There is nothing in her petition that shows any type of proof that he was making threats or acting with malice. Florida law is very clear, there has to be an act of malice to be considered stalking.

He was annoying her, but under the Florida statute, he wasn't stalking her. They don't issue restraining orders due to annoying behavior.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Oviedo, FL
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Obviously more than she had. It's part of due process--the thing that makes this country different from say China.

There is nothing in her petition that shows any type of proof that he was making threats or acting with malice. Florida law is very clear, there has to be an act of malice to be considered stalking.

He was annoying her, but under the Florida statute, he wasn't stalking her. They don't issue restraining orders due to annoying behavior.
I have to agree. It is obviously a tragedy and I feel terrible for her husband and family. With that said, I can't pin this in the least on the judge for doing his job. I pin this on the psycho that did it.

Is war on women a proper title for this thread when we are talking about a psycho who committed a terrible crime?
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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I think the question to ask is: Would the result be different if the judge signed a restraining order?

As someone above mentioned, a person intent on murdering the victim will not be deterred by a restraining order!
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Oviedo, FL
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I think the question to ask is: Would the result be different if the judge signed a restraining order?

As someone above mentioned, a person intent on murdering the victim will not be deterred by a restraining order!
yea, very true. Its not even like she was killed during a struggle, he went specifically to kill her, nothing else
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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If she were truly in fear for her personal safety, a carry permit and handgun would have been a more suitable solution.
I agree mostly, but where she was shot was when she was walking into the AT&T building, where handguns are most certainly not permitted, so in this case she wouldn't have even been able to have a gun with her.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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I agree mostly, but where she was shot was when she was walking into the AT&T building, where handguns are most certainly not permitted, so in this case she wouldn't have even been able to have a gun with her.

If she were in fear for her safety, she would have notified AT&T of the situation so their security could assist her. All large corporations like that will work with employees to ensure their safety. The one I used to work for offered escorts in and out of the building to people going through divorces with crazy spouses.
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