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Old 03-21-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Lakes prevent Orlando from being on a grid.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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Lakes prevent Orlando from being on a grid.
That is untrue.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:09 PM
 
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Lakes prevent Orlando from being on a grid.

Please explain further - No hit and run posts.



Here is a map of Orlando. There are a few lakes.

Orlando Map - Map of Orlando, FL
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:32 PM
 
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Sorry my background is architecture and urban planning its just sorta knowledge to me from a design, historical, and practical standpoint but I'll see what I can come up with for references.

Here is a historic map of Orlando. Notice the grid breaks where lakes are. Notice also that even in this old map that at the top which would actually be East is Lake Ivanhoe and you can see the main road had to split to get around the lake.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/histo...o_fla_1920.jpg


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For these next ones it didn't allow linking to the exact location on Google Map so just go to http://maps.google.com/ and type in what I listed in parenthesis.
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Okay now in this one which is current you can see that on the street level it is somewhat gridded but becomes transformed by Lakes such as Lake Ivanhoe.
(Google Map: Lake Ivanoe, FL)


Here is Lake Baldwin where Baldwin Park was just built. It is New Urbanism in every sense of the word, which was developed by Yale Architects that then based themselves in FL and work predominately in FL. Notice that it is on a grid to the West of Lake Baldwin but transformed slightly around the lake.
(Google Map: Lake Baldwin, FL)

Another example in this case Maitland, the main streets somewhat follow the best path without disturbing the lake and then smaller roads have eventually grown in from those main streets to fill in the spaces around the lakes.
(Google Map: Lake Sybelia, FL)

Las Vegas, NV was used as an example for a better city because it is on a grid. Notice though there are no lakes to interrupt its system:
(Google Map: Las Vegas, NV)

However, look at Lake Las Vegas just outside of town and you'll see the main road is not set for a grid but goes around the lake just like Orlando. Likewise if you look a little West the major interstates fork around Las Vegas Bay.
(Google Map: Lake Las Vegas, NV)

Another City known for its lakes are St. Paul and Minneapolis (The Twin Cities). Here you can see in both links (one of St. Paul and one of Minneapolis) that it has very much the same characteristics as Orlando.:
(Google Map: Cedar Lake, MN)
(Google Map: Adren Hills, MN)

I hope this helps clear my point up a bit. Is it the only factor in why Orlando doesn't have a grid system? No, of course not. But it is probably the single most significant reason why it doesn't.

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Old 03-21-2010, 10:30 PM
 
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LOL at "rapid transit" i can never recall a time when lynx has ever been "rapid" lol
Meant 'public transit'
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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Default Run Down

I agree. It seems like alot of areas of Orlando are "run down" It would be nice to see the homeowners just paint their homes or hire someone to do it.
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Old 05-22-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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winter park isn't surrounded by ghettos. Winter Park is one of the nicest, most established areas to live in central FL. Some outer, more suburban parts of the area have smaller homes but they aren't ghetto. Very little crime anywhere in winter park and the schools are all highly rated.
This shows that you really don't know Winter Park. Crack town is four blocks from Park Ave. and there have been assaults and muggings in The Winter Park Village. BTW The highly rated schools have more mobile trailers than buildings. Just sayin'.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This shows that you really don't know Winter Park. Crack town is four blocks from Park Ave. and there have been assaults and muggings in The Winter Park Village. BTW The highly rated schools have more mobile trailers than buildings. Just sayin'.
I was born in winter park. I know it very well. Winter Park HS is a nice building with a few portables due to too much growth in the area that's why two new high schools opened up this year to relieve over crowding caused by the growing population. I don't consider winter park ghetto. Random crime happens everywhere. I would not be afraid to walk through the winter park village because it's a safe area, crime isn't normal there like in a ghetto. Yes maybe crime has happened before, prolly late a night. But random crimes like that can happen anywhere, in every state and every city.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Altamonte Springs
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I was in the Goldenrod and University area and driving up Goldenrod from East Colonial I was shocked at how run down some of the homes were, especially by University Blvd

I found it almost impossible to believe this area is a Winter Park zip code (32792)

This just shocked me thats all

Did anybody else know Winter Park had parts like that?
Those areas you just mentioned are not part of the city limits of Winter Park. They are unincorporated areas that belong to Orange County Government.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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Those areas you just mentioned are not part of the city limits of Winter Park. They are unincorporated areas that belong to Orange County Government.
yes but they are in the winter park zip code 32792, and therefore are part of winter park. Any address would say "Winter Park, FL 32792"

its unincorporated winter park
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