Orlando crime? (Miami, Brownsville: hoa, housing, high crime)

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Miami - News - We're Number One - A Special Report

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Go to the section of this article that says "Top of the List" at the bottom portion of this article........need i say anymore

American Renaissance News: The Late Great City of Miami


Now this person has alot of racism in his article but the facts given are truth....about certain things that happened in Miami

[Hustla718]

Enough already.

Washington Heights not only feeds NYC but Philly, Newark and other nearby cities as well. That is why it is the top drug hub of the nation. There is also a large local population of drug addicts.

And yes it is poor. I don't see your point with the videos. A bus terminal intersection near the George Washington Bridge? An upcoming rapper sorting CD's in front of a building? A video of a park? What are you trying to prove. Washington Heights is a very poor neighborhood and that is well known.

Enough with the NYC stuff already. No city had the level of violent crime NYC had in the 1960's-70's-80's-90's. No city had close to the population to support the level of crime at that time. Even today NYC has the most murders in the nation. 600 a year. Crime is down, but there are still plenty of bad neighborhoods. Why did you bring NYC into this anyway?

As for Puerto Rico versus Orlando, or any city in the USA. You just don't get it. Puerto Rico is an INTERNATIONAL DRUG CORRIDOR feeding the largest consumer of drugs in the WORLD (The USA). 25% of all cocain entering the USA travels through Puerto Rico. That is serious weight. 50% along the American-Mexican border. 20% of that cocain entering Puerto Rico STAYS IN PUERTO RICO. Consumed by locals. That is a huge amount of cocain. It is getting so bad the population of young Puerto Rican males on the island is getting wiped out. Either dieing from violence, drug usage or getting long term prison sentances.

Yes there is a lot of violence. A lot more then what we see in the USA. Very comparable to Mexico. Puerto Rico has very serious problems with violence. The drug trade is on another level.

[vinnievideo]

i am a part timer in Central Fla, and have watched the news there, when there. Sure there is plenty of 'crime' going on. I wan't you to know that it is the media that helps portray this tripe. My other city is in the North East and we have the same 'crime' problems, gives the boys with the cameras and the bubbleheaded bleach blonde something to say at 5, 6, 10, 11, with a rebroadcast at 12:30 after the game. Look people if you did not watch this tripe you would not be affected so much by it, (God gave you a clicker, change the channel.) Especially the man 60 miles away in Port Orange puleeze. So, stay in the gated communites and let them at each others throats. You are safe NO?, Then move.

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Originally Posted by Hustla718

Enough already.

Washington Heights not only feeds NYC but Philly, Newark and other nearby cities as well. That is why it is the top drug hub of the nation. There is also a large local population of drug addicts.

And yes it is poor. I don't see your point with the videos. A bus terminal intersection near the George Washington Bridge? An upcoming rapper sorting CD's in front of a building? A video of a park? What are you trying to prove. Washington Heights is a very poor neighborhood and that is well known.

Enough with the NYC stuff already. No city had the level of violent crime NYC had in the 1960's-70's-80's-90's. No city had close to the population to support the level of crime at that time. Even today NYC has the most murders in the nation. 600 a year. Crime is down, but there are still plenty of bad neighborhoods. Why did you bring NYC into this anyway?

As for Puerto Rico versus Orlando, or any city in the USA. You just don't get it. Puerto Rico is an INTERNATIONAL DRUG CORRIDOR feeding the largest consumer of drugs in the WORLD (The USA). 25% of all cocain entering the USA travels through Puerto Rico. That is serious weight. 50% along the American-Mexican border. 20% of that cocain entering Puerto Rico STAYS IN PUERTO RICO. Consumed by locals. That is a huge amount of cocain. It is getting so bad the population of young Puerto Rican males on the island is getting wiped out. Either dieing from violence, drug usage or getting long term prison sentances.

Yes there is a lot of violence. A lot more then what we see in the USA. Very comparable to Mexico. Puerto Rico has very serious problems with violence. The drug trade is on another level.

That is the whole point...i don't care if other places are worse than mine like Detroit is...or Chicago is but when NYC people want to make a claim that they saw the amount of crime due to drug traffiking that Miami saw in the 80's in which i lived there as a young man....then you really are misinformed on Florida ...there were Billions of dollars being deposited into Miami banks back then from the drug trade and NYC wasnt even close to that with the millions that live there against the thousands that lived in MIA back then......just watch tha frikin videos i put up on Cocaine Cowboys ......I know there is poverty in NYC and some people that i grew up wit in Miami were from NYC in Miami and "they taught me things that i should use when in the bad times in life but if you disregard Miami as being a drug Capital then you sound like you havent read up on American History..I do love Philly cuz my grandmother is from Sicilia Italy and was from Sicily and lived in Sarasota before she died....but you can't say NYC has seen what Florida couldnt imagine.....yeah ..there are parts of Florida with a bunch of rednecks and oblivious people to crime and street knowledge ...but Miami is a place that can stand alone with "ANY" other city in America as far as seeing horrible crimes happen on a daily basis....even though it is a beautifull area

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Hey Hustla 718 ....I don't hate you man....ive really enjoyed comparing different areas...maybe we can learn something from each other....i am really not saying i wouldnt fear neighborhoods in NYC , but i have seen the crap that goes on in Miami and now Orlando and it is not Disney world unless you live out where i actually live now...i live in a nice area in Orlando right now.....right by the Orlando convention Center...but i have lived in some bad areas in Miami in Carol City and in Hialeah.......and in Miami when i was a kid....and i saw stuff on the news back then that overshadowed anything you could see in NYC that would make me say that NYC was worse....there are other places in America that are worse than where i personally lived but for anyone to say that Miami was not the drug and murder capital at one time and that it is a safe city compared to others even now...then you are decieved

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Bring facts please not your words....bring some documentation that says that PR or NYC has been through worse in than the drug crimes and murders of Miami or Mexico..i believe Mexico is Hell compared to Miami but in the 80's Miami was the only city to experience a third world crime mentality in the U.S..........and that is fact because of the videos i have showed about Cocaine cowboys and the FBI statistics....NYC has lots and lots and lots of drugs....no doubt...but Miami was beyond NYC when drug trafficing and drug murders was conserned in the 80's and even now it is a bigger buisiness in Miami....and even PR didnt have that many problems with drug traffiking as Miami had in the 80's...so please please please rent "Cocaine Cowboys"...so that you can agree with a NYC comrade (The guy in the Video i posted from NYC) that NYC was 10 times less drug murders and traffiking than MiAMI in the 80's...if you wanna respond with words ...then that is fine cuz i wont believe until i see evidence of NYC or Puerto Rico being worse than Miami-Dade county and Florida in the 80's or even nowadays

[carolac]

Thank you for a voice of reason. I was pretty stunned at the comments--bring in the Army--nuke the neighborhoods??!?

I've lived in Orlando for 35 years. Yes, the crime has increased, as it has with every city that grows by leaps and bounds. Calm down. As blueoktober points out, I'd be interested to see how much of this crime happens to people who put themselves into dangerous situations. I worked the graveyard shift at a near downtown restaurant while I quit my daytime job and homeschooled my son for a while. It was quite eye-opening as to what people do.


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Investigators said a fight between several teens at Club Crunk located on Orange Blossom Trail spilled over to a nearby gas station./QUOTE]

Ok let's talk this one out. Past midnight, Orange Blossom Trail and CLUB CRUNK??? Exactly where I'd expect something like this to happen and exactly the place I wouldn't be.

I have to ask all of you "chicken-littles" in Orlando - have you actually witnessed any crime or been in a situation that made you scared? Honestly, no exaggerations....have you? How does all the drug related crime affect you? If you live on OBT - then why do you? Do you drive through Parramore at night? If so, why? People in Metrowest - move. The area is bad. But how does this affect someone living in Lake Mary driving to work in Winter Park? How does it affect someone in a highrise in Thornton Park driving to John Young for work?

It's easy to persuade yourself things are terrible when you aren't happy. It makes it easier to reason or justify your thoughts on a city. Crime is pretty bad here, but it's NOTHING like the above posts. Nothing at all.

[Hustla718]

I don't know why you keep bringing NYC into the topic.

-No Miami didn't have 10 times more drug murders then in NYC. I don't know where you go this information from, but NYC had and still has significantly more murders then Miami.

-How can Miami have more drug activity then a city many times larger. There are more people living inside public housing projects in NYC then there are total people living in Miami. Obviously more people are effected by drugs and crime in NYC. People in NYC live much closer to each other. In poor areas that is 5-6 story tenements and 20 story housing projects. Obviously NYC has more of everything including, crime, poverty, and drug activity.

Now for Puerto Rico. The island of Puerto Rico deals with more drug related problems then Mexico. Remember 25% of the cocain entering the USA goes through Puerto Rico (USA is the largest consumer in the world). 20% of stays on the island. That means 20% of all cocain entering the USA stays in Puerto Rico. That means if Puerto Rico was independant, it would be one of the largest consumers of cocain in the world. Per person it would have the most cocain per individual.

Now to simplify even more. Mexico's areas dealing with drug problems are on the northern and southern border. Nothern border seems to be more violent as competition is heated. Mexico City is also dealing with drug crime.

In Puerto Rico the whole island is effected. It is only so big. There is so much drug activity on the island everyone is effected in some way. There are hot areas comparable to Mexico's border towns like parts of San Juan and poor towns across the island. However everyone is effected. IT'S AN ISLAND.

Use common sense.

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Originally Posted by Hustla718

I don't know why you keep bringing NYC into the topic.

-No Miami didn't have 10 times more drug murders then in NYC. I don't know where you go this information from, but NYC had and still has significantly more murders then Miami.

-How can Miami have more drug activity then a city many times larger. There are more people living inside public housing projects in NYC then there are total people living in Miami. Obviously more people are effected by drugs and crime in NYC. People in NYC live much closer to each other. In poor areas that is 5-6 story tenements and 20 story housing projects. Obviously NYC has more of everything including, crime, poverty, and drug activity.

Now for Puerto Rico. The island of Puerto Rico deals with more drug related problems then Mexico. Remember 25% of the cocain entering the USA goes through Puerto Rico (USA is the largest consumer in the world). 20% of stays on the island. That means 20% of all cocain entering the USA stays in Puerto Rico. That means if Puerto Rico was independant, it would be one of the largest consumers of cocain in the world. Per person it would have the most cocain per individual.

Now to simplify even more. Mexico's areas dealing with drug problems are on the northern and southern border. Nothern border seems to be more violent as competition is heated. Mexico City is also dealing with drug crime.

In Puerto Rico the whole island is effected. It is only so big. There is so much drug activity on the island everyone is effected in some way. There are hot areas comparable to Mexico's border towns like parts of San Juan and poor towns across the island. However everyone is effected. IT'S AN ISLAND.

Use common sense.

Watch Cocaine Cowboys...real facts, real documentation to prove what they say......jsut watch the documentary and i will repeat again the guy from the Fat Boys a NYC group even says himself after watching the documentary that the drug problem in Miami was to the tenth power of what it was in NYC back then.....check it out......please because i am tired of getting the same response without data that we can all read that shows i am wrong about what i have said,.......please bring facts not facts from your own opinion of your neighborhood but actuall data from a nuetral source kinda like all the videos and info i have posted ....please