Orlando crime? (Miami, Palm Bay, South Beach: real estate, showing, apartment)

[THASPECIAL]

ONE MORE THING WHY YOU THINK IM TALKING BOUT ORLANDO FOOL?.....IM SPEAKING OF ALL OF FLORIDA ....I AM FROM MIAMI AND MAYBE YOU CAN WATCH COCAINE COWBOYS FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIL LIFE AND SEE THAT NYC HASNT HAD THE PROBLEMS OF MIAMI IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME MIAMI HAS BEEN THERE....MIAMI IS ONLY ABOUT 100 YEARS OLD...NYC HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER BUT STILL HASNT BEEN THROUGH ALL THE CRIME MIAMI WENT THROUGH IN THE 80's per capita....tell me that youve had that many problems from drugs in your city....


AND PURTO RICANS "NEVER" went through the struggles that CUBANO's went through to get to this country....no puerto rican ever drank his own **** on a raft after runnig out of water to get here and just tell me why Cubans are more humble about life in general...ill tell ya....its because the more youve been through ...in life....the more humble you become....dispute that.....mr. holder of all knowledge

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by THASPECIAL

ONE MORE THING WHY YOU THINK IM TALKING BOUT ORLANDO FOOL?.....IM SPEAKING OF ALL OF FLORIDA ....I AM FROM MIAMI AND MAYBE YOU CAN WATCH COCAINE COWBOYS FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIL LIFE AND SEE THAT NYC HASNT HAD THE PROBLEMS OF MIAMI IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME MIAMI HAS BEEN THERE....MIAMI IS ONLY ABOUT 100 YEARS OLD...NYC HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER BUT STILL HASNT BEEN THROUGH ALL THE CRIME MIAMI WENT THROUGH IN THE 80's per capita....tell me that youve had that many problems from drugs in your city....


AND PURTO RICANS "NEVER" went through the struggles that CUBANO's went through to get to this country....no puerto rican ever drank his own **** on a raft after runnig out of water to get here and just tell me why Cubans are more humble about life in general...ill tell ya....its because the more youve been through ...in life....the more humble you become....dispute that.....mr. holder of all knowledge

You should look up the criminal history of NYC, but this topic has nothing to do with that city.

As for Cubans having it so hard. Cuba is one of the safest nations, with some of the best healthcare in the world. The architecture an climate is amazing. A lot of Cubans wine and ***** about Castro, but what would Cuba be like without him? Another Dominican Republic? Haiti? Jamaica? Unlike many American Cubans would want you to think, the vast majority of Cubans live wonderful happy lives.

60 years ago, Puerto Rico was one of the poorest areas in the world. It was the poorest in the Caribbean. Conditions on the island were horrid. This was during the great migration of Puerto Ricans to the USA. Mostly Chicago, Philly, and of course NYC. The USA along with the Puerto Rican gov't started programs to bring PR back on it's feet. The beginning of Operation Bootstrap. Flooding the PR gov't with American money and encourageing American business. The start of the welfare culture. Many slums were torn down to build public housing projects. So you had huge housing projects surrounded by slum shacks in San Juan, Mayaguez, ect. Since PR was part of the USA, Puerto Ricans applied for welfare and food stamps.

The economy picked up, and now PR is wealthier then most of the Caribbean. However the welfare culture remains. The island may be wealthier, but it is still a poor island. You have those who live in generational poverty. No one being the individual to make a difference for their family. Living in public housing, section 8, some living in shacks, stealing power from city lines. With this culture came crime. The crack and heroin epidemics which hit the island hard. This is becuase PR is part of the USA, and a much easier place to sneak drugs into then the costal mainland. 25% of all cocain trying to get to the USA travels through PR. 20% of that stays on the island.

So before you go saying PR's had it easy like most idiots, learn something first. Don't make me even get to the challenges PR's had to go through in the USA as one of the first Latino groups on the mainland.

[atlantagreg30127]

I haven't read every single post in this whole thread, so if I'm repeating something forgive me... but, have there been any studies done that may link the sharp rise in some crimes in the Orlando area to around the same time as Katrina?

I know that here in Atlanta we "adopted" an estimated 100,000+ Katrina victims. While some were legit law abiding citizens who were fleeing the hurricane, a decent number of those who migrated over here (and even more to Houston) were drug dealers, scam artists, etc. As high as our crime is here, there was a noticeable spike in some crimes soon after Katrina. For a while when there was an arrest for one of them and the people had Louisianna licenses, the media would make a point of mentioning that, I guess as in informal way of saying, "Look! See??". I know that likewise, Houston has seen a huge increase in certain crimes since the Katrina event as well.

No doubt Orlando took in a number of those fleeing as well. Have or did the news reports go into details when reporting about arrests as to if those being arrested came from the Louisianna area or not? Or did the police do studies, etc?

[Hustla718]

Originally Posted by atlantagreg30127

I haven't read every single post in this whole thread, so if I'm repeating something forgive me... but, have there been any studies done that may link the sharp rise in some crimes in the Orlando area to around the same time as Katrina?

I know that here in Atlanta we "adopted" an estimated 100,000+ Katrina victims. While some were legit law abiding citizens who were fleeing the hurricane, a decent number of those who migrated over here (and even more to Houston) were drug dealers, scam artists, etc. As high as our crime is here, there was a noticeable spike in some crimes soon after Katrina. For a while when there was an arrest for one of them and the people had Louisianna licenses, the media would make a point of mentioning that, I guess as in informal way of saying, "Look! See??". I know that likewise, Houston has seen a huge increase in certain crimes since the Katrina event as well.

No doubt Orlando took in a number of those fleeing as well. Have or did the news reports go into details when reporting about arrests as to if those being arrested came from the Louisianna area or not? Or did the police do studies, etc?

There may have been an increase in crime due to Katrina, but you also have to factor in there was a growth in population.

[Stupid Flanders]

Originally Posted by atlantagreg30127

I haven't read every single post in this whole thread, so if I'm repeating something forgive me... but, have there been any studies done that may link the sharp rise in some crimes in the Orlando area to around the same time as Katrina?

I know that here in Atlanta we "adopted" an estimated 100,000+ Katrina victims. While some were legit law abiding citizens who were fleeing the hurricane, a decent number of those who migrated over here (and even more to Houston) were drug dealers, scam artists, etc. As high as our crime is here, there was a noticeable spike in some crimes soon after Katrina. For a while when there was an arrest for one of them and the people had Louisianna licenses, the media would make a point of mentioning that, I guess as in informal way of saying, "Look! See??". I know that likewise, Houston has seen a huge increase in certain crimes since the Katrina event as well.

No doubt Orlando took in a number of those fleeing as well. Have or did the news reports go into details when reporting about arrests as to if those being arrested came from the Louisianna area or not? Or did the police do studies, etc?

Didnt you hear the official rule? If you use "Katrina" and "crime" in the same paragraph, you are a racist and should be shot.

No studies, no tacit intelligence, no statistical data...just racism.

By the way, I lived in Atlanta during Katrina. The crap that came into Gwinnett County was aweful after the storm. Crime went up like a drunken gir's shirt at Mardi Gras. I'm sure you remember.

[Prichard]

Yes, I've noticed the "spike" in Orlando crime corelates with Katrina also. Same with Tampa.

No one wants to talk about this in the news media.

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PS, just after posting the above, I see that ABC did do a story on the spike in crime in other cities caused by Katrina: ABC News: After Katrina, New Orleans Crime Moves to Other Cities

[atlantagreg30127]

Originally Posted by Prichard

Yes, I've noticed the "spike" in Orlando crime corelates with Katrina also. Same with Tampa.

No one wants to talk about this in the news media.

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PS, just after posting the above, I see that ABC did do a story on the spike in crime in other cities caused by Katrina: ABC News: After Katrina, New Orleans Crime Moves to Other Cities

The Atlanta media didn't hesitate to do it, though.

Immediately following Katrina, there was a rash of drug related crimes and robberies in some areas (Gwinnett being the largest for some reason), and each time there was an arrest the media did seem to make a point of saying, "... and the suspects... with New Orleans identification...", etc etc. There was a rape in Acworth where a man just carjacked a woman and raped her in broad daylight and he was caught and again on the news..."...the man, who came to Atlanta to escape Katrina...". So the media here wasn't afraid to comment on it, and for the record, probably more than half the upper-end execs at the local news stations are black.

It should also be noted that when folks started arriving at the Houston dome arena and the media showed the who/what details on them, that the Atlanta mayor (who is black) chose to open VERY few shelters, and made no public invite at all to those coming here. She let people filter in completely on their own to spread out through the metro area, as opposed to doing the big media, "we'll take you in" that the Houston mayor (who was white, by the way), did.

So while I know a certain number of activists played the race card regarding Katrina, and still do, it's awfully hard to call it racism when a black mayor has a, "No way.. I don't want 'em" attitude while a white one opens up an entire stadium to the escapees. Black, white, yellow or red, the fact is that a certain percentage of those who left Orleans were trash. The cities that did try to do the right thing and open their arms to the REAL victims were bit in their butts by also adopting the scum that filtered in along with them. The sad thing is, if there is another Katrina-like event, I doubt any larger or medium-sized cities will be as open to accepting large number of folks as they were the last time around because of this.

Any city with a large number of tourists is going to have high crime in SOME ways (robbery, burglary, etc), and you can hardly get more tourists in an area than Orlando does. But the drug/rape/assault stuff that was brought in from other areas due to disasters is a shame.

[Chris22]

Ocala seems to be a nice place

[Magnulus]

IMO the Orlando area would be safer and less crime than Puerto Rico...

But on the whole Orlando's crime rate is up, up, up. The whole demographics and economy here are criminogenic. Much more young families than other parts of Florida, low paying jobs, people without deep roots in the community... mix all that in and it spells crime. I even think the poor urban developement (or rather lack of it) and the lack of good public transportation are to blame. Add on the toleration for alot of eyesores and people don't want to take care of things.

[THASPECIAL]

what i said is that the desperation to get out of CUBA is higher than that of Puerto Rico...because i heard stories on the news of how Cuban people drank thier own urine after they ran out of water after being in the ocean on thier raft for days in the sun...ive never heard of any Puerto Rican doing this to get out of his country