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Unread 12-12-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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Mental health often plays a role in addiction and criminal behavior. And it is complicated and sad...
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Unread 12-12-2010, 07:29 PM
 
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So he is a dangerous man. Does he have no intention of getting better???
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Unread 12-13-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Tri-Lakes area, SW MO
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I do agree with you CM. I think the problem a judge would face here is that this young man has been in rehab before and was still drinking and driving. He needs some rehab while he does not have access to liquor....or car keys.
One of the big problems is that this is long-term behavior. He's not young. He's 60. He's not going to change overnight, or perhaps at all.

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So he is a dangerous man. Does he have no intention of getting better???
Most likely he has every intention of getting better, when he's between drinks, that is. The court has to decide the element of risk of letting him, back on the street. Primarily it's the risk of danger to others.
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Unread 12-13-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Update: He has been moved from jail to a rehab center while he waits for his trial next week if it goes as scheduled. He had a diabetic attack in jail and had to be taken to the ER. He was not known to have diabetes before this incident. So, for the moment anyway he is spared from jail and the public is spared from the danger he represents.
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Unread 12-14-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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Typical day. Wake up to the sound of a buzzer or some idiot crying or screaming and the people in the other cells screaming "Shut the f8ck up"!. Step outside for a cell check and head count. Throw up a gang sign. Clean your cell out then head to showers. 1 hour rec time either on the yard or library. Counseling if needed either drug or pyschological. Lunchtime. Back to the cell. Cell check and head count. The rest of the day is spent doing nothing like reading or doing pushups if they let you or socializing until lights out.
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Unread 12-14-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: colorado
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Just found out that an old college friend (now aged 60) will likely have a prison sentence in Vermont. He just got his 4th DUI. He's had a drinking problem since I met him at age 19. This is so sad for everyone. But I am wondering how he will spend his time. I have not known anyone who actually served time to ask. This guy has made a decent living in sales and has never been in debt. He's been to rehab a number of times and this last incident has (again) resulting in him losing his job. But his wife says this time they will "throw the book" at him. So, wondering if anyone knows what life will be like for him? Will he share a cell? Will he have a job? What's a typical day like? Is he in danger of being harmed by other inmates.....he's not a tough guy but he is tall. I'm sad about this.

Here at IBM is pure hell..The food in the cafeteria is too expensive..our chairs are uncomfortable..our desks are too small..we get whipped with the chains if we take a break..we have to beg for our paychecks ...and if were lucky they will throw a few pennies at us..they send the attack dogs on us if we try and escape....does the sun still shine?..I havent seen it in years..
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Unread 12-15-2010, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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They are saying something like 10 years. Vermont is very strict and this is his 4th conviction.....
I seriously doubt he'll see anything close to 10 years but I don't work in VT so I don't know and I don't feel like looking it up. But personally I hope he sees quite a bit of time behind bars. You didn't mention if he's hurt anyone or not but it's only a matter of time before he does. Unfortunately the drunks always survive unscathed while the innocent victims are the ones dying or receiving serious injuries.
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Unread 12-15-2010, 06:34 AM
 
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If he is a true alcoholic, he most likely will want to quit for a while after getting out of jail, then after a week or 2 , he will pick up right where he left off. Unless he has a sudden life change and mental change where he discovers that life without alcohol has value, he won't see the point in quitting.

This happened to a guy I know who used to go out drinking and of course, used to drive, with his kids in the passenger seat, because their mother wanted to make him a responsible person.

He got thrown in jail and got out in 3 months. His license was revoked and now he doesn't drive. I think it was a blessing that his license was revoked. His kids were in a lot of danger.
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Unread 12-15-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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To answer the original question, here is a blog by someone currently incarcerated for 78 months (though for a child porn offense). Makes more sense if you click back to the beginning and go backwards.

http://www.joetheso.com
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Unread 12-16-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NEK
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Of all places to serve jail time I'd take VT or NH any day....not scary at all. And to top it off the scenery???? So, nothing at all like TX jails that you are imagining. Unfortunately VT is harder on DUI than child sex offenders......... But, most jails now provide criminals access to email via CORRLINKS. I think jail should be a little less desirable for some reason, but...........
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