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Old 09-24-2006, 07:05 PM
 
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Limbaugh and Glenn Beck do NOT do an intelligent job of representing the "other side." They're demagogues, they pander to an audience who wants to be told what to think, they don't analyze issues with any depth, they distort half the things they say, and they're both very immature in the way they debate and the way they talk about opposing views.

If you REALLY want to get the conservative view, you should look into some more intelligent sources. Several of the top conservative pundits on cable TV, NPR and PBS have published excellent books. It's challenging to maintain one way of seeing the world when you truly expose yourself to valid points of view that differ from yours. Rush and Glenn are NOT valid points of view, they're little boys with big microphones making lots of money saying stupid things that their audience agrees with, you can't learn ANYTHING from them. And in spite of Bill O'Reilly's constant self-praise for being so fair and balanced and the best in the business, he's just as much a demagogue. The childish Bill stormed off the set of a perfectly civil and interesting interview on NPR --- he only heard and saw what he EXPECTED to hear and see.

That's the problem with ALL of us, bias! If you don't think you're biased, then you're not even at Step One of true learning.


Conservatives on NPR and PBS Who might those be

O'Reilly is not consevative, he panders to both sides.

 
Old 09-24-2006, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Conservatives on NPR and PBS Who might those be

O'Reilly is not consevative, he panders to both sides.
Your comments are a perfect example of how people only see and hear what they want to see and hear. You're clearly a dedicated right-leaning person or you wouldn't say either of those things. I'm not putting you down, by the way, this is what we ALL do! It's like how I say Bill O'Reilly is a conservative --- I don't see him as "balanced" because of my own biases.

PBS has many conservatives. Wall Street Report, McLaughlin Group, To The Contrary --- any of their shows that involve a group discussion always include a balance of conservatives and liberals and sometimes they're even led by conservatives. I've seen more George Will, Pat Buchana, and Freddy "The Beetle" Barnes on PBS than on any other TV station.

NPR is admittedly more to the left than PBS, though I consider them to be very centrist and balanced because they are to the right of many of my views in the way they choose what to report and how to report it.

One thing you and I would agree on is that NPR is elitist. That nasally east-coast intellectual upper-class affectation, it's almost like a requirement to learn that style of speaking before you can work there! Even the local Austin NPR affiliate has locals who talk that way. No trace of Texan in their voices

Actually, the entire concept of PBS and NPR is elitist. It forces working class people to pay, through their taxes, for upper class programming that they'll never watch. It robs the poor to pay for entertainment for the highest socioeconomic class. The only time it seems valid to me is when I'm in the "middle of nowhere" and the only radio I can get is NPR, then I recognize it as a unique service to people in those remote places. Other than that, they should be totally cut off from public funding.
 
Old 09-24-2006, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NC
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the biggest problem with North Korea is that they are a lap dog of China
 
Old 09-24-2006, 09:39 PM
 
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Your comments are a perfect example of how people only see and hear what they want to see and hear. You're clearly a dedicated right-leaning person or you wouldn't say either of those things. I'm not putting you down, by the way, this is what we ALL do! It's like how I say Bill O'Reilly is a conservative --- I don't see him as "balanced" because of my own biases.

PBS has many conservatives. Wall Street Report, McLaughlin Group, To The Contrary --- any of their shows that involve a group discussion always include a balance of conservatives and liberals and sometimes they're even led by conservatives. I've seen more George Will, Pat Buchana, and Freddy "The Beetle" Barnes on PBS than on any other TV station.

NPR is admittedly more to the left than PBS, though I consider them to be very centrist and balanced because they are to the right of many of my views in the way they choose what to report and how to report it.

One thing you and I would agree on is that NPR is elitist. That nasally east-coast intellectual upper-class affectation, it's almost like a requirement to learn that style of speaking before you can work there! Even the local Austin NPR affiliate has locals who talk that way. No trace of Texan in their voices

Actually, the entire concept of PBS and NPR is elitist. It forces working class people to pay, through their taxes, for upper class programming that they'll never watch. It robs the poor to pay for entertainment for the highest socioeconomic class. The only time it seems valid to me is when I'm in the "middle of nowhere" and the only radio I can get is NPR, then I recognize it as a unique service to people in those remote places. Other than that, they should be totally cut off from public funding.


Ok fair enough, I've tuned into the McLaughlin Group. Yes, you are right I lean to the right
 
Old 09-24-2006, 09:43 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I'm upside down and inside out.
 
Old 09-25-2006, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Nowhere near Elko, NV
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the biggest problem with North Korea is that they are a lap dog of China
If by that you mean the kind of dog that craps on your carpet, bites the neighbors' kids and suffers from a scorching case of mange then yes, NK is China's lap dog.

Magpies
 
Old 09-25-2006, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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If by that you mean the kind of dog that craps on your carpet, bites the neighbors' kids and suffers from a scorching case of mange then yes, NK is China's lap dog.

Magpies
I liked that one!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 09-25-2006, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I'm upside down and inside out.
Let us know if you run for political office. I'd definitely vote for you just on the basis of your "positions on the issues."
 
Old 09-25-2006, 10:49 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Let us know if you run for political office. I'd definitely vote for you just on the basis of your "positions on the issues."
I'll take you up on that!
 
Old 09-29-2006, 03:54 PM
 
Location: PSL,FL
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LindaBeranek, WELL THANK YOU KINDLY..i do appreciate it. I am straight forward and honest and well researched.
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