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12-08-2006, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CelticLady1
If we, as citizens, are already armed, then, in the case of a national emergency, guess what? We can be organized to defend ourselves, just as our ancestors were, (remember those farmers, shopkeepers, and blacksmiths I mentioned?  They didn't start off as trained military). It's not really a favorite movie of mine, but they bring this case in point in "Red Dawn". Have you ever seen it?
I can't predict that we as a nation, can defend ourselves successfully, if push came to shove, in a national emergency, but wouldn't it be nice to know, that as long as we, as citizens, not just the military, are armed, we have a better chance? We may go down, but at least we can go down swinging! The same concept as being able to defend myself in my home, only on a larger scale!
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yes we had to watch Red Dawn in school, just in case! ( it was the 80's) I actually liked that movie. my dad was into survival training and I was taught how to survive in the wild if needed. I was taught how to use guns and a cross-bow, my preferred hunting method!!! I was taught self-defense and know how to defend myself, which actually makes me feel better knowing I can do so without the use of a knife or gun, I was taught ways of taking them away if the situation was right, having one pointed at my face really wouldnt leave me the option of pulling out my gun or cross-bow!!! But I know how to disarm in that situation!!! I think everyone should learn especially us women.
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12-08-2006, 08:04 AM
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yes we had to watch Red Dawn in school, just in case! ( it was the 80's) I actually liked that movie. my dad was into survival training and I was taught how to survive in the wild if needed. I was taught how to use guns and a cross-bow, my preferred hunting method!!! I was taught self-defense and know how to defend myself, which actually makes me feel better knowing I can do so without the use of a knife or gun, I was taught ways of taking them away if the situation was right, having one pointed at my face really wouldnt leave me the option of pulling out my gun or cross-bow!!! But I know how to disarm in that situation!!! I think everyone should learn especially us women.
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Ahh, at last something we can agree on!!  I believe everyone, especially women, should learn how to defend themselves, (I just prefer having that extra edge, if I can  ).
Your preferred hunting method is the crossbow? How interesting.  First, that you hunt, (most folks who don't care for guns, don't like hunting, either), and secondly, your preferred choice of weapon. I have a compound bow. If I'm not mistaken, here in Florida, you can't use a crossbow, unless you have something from the doctor, stating that you can't pull a compound. Anyway, it's something like that. What do you hunt for, deer, elk?
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12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
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Ahh, at last something we can agree on!!  I believe everyone, especially women, should learn how to defend themselves, (I just prefer having that extra edge, if I can  ).
Your preferred hunting method is the crossbow? How interesting.  First, that you hunt, (most folks who don't care for guns, don't like hunting, either), and secondly, your preferred choice of weapon. I have a compound bow. If I'm not mistaken, here in Florida, you can't use a crossbow, unless you have something from the doctor, stating that you can't pull a compound. Anyway, it's something like that. What do you hunt for, deer, elk?
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I know my dad says I am my own contridiction!!! I love animals but hunt!! But it was just something we always did together something about the gun breaking the silence I didnt like, bow was more effective and clean and didnt scare everything within a 1/2 mile!!!. I dont hunt anymore, but it was mostly Elk, sometimes deer. We would go for a week in Montana and camp out. I like bows, we still go target shooting once in awhile.
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12-08-2006, 08:30 AM
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I know my dad says I am my own contridiction!!! I love animals but hunt!! But it was just something we always did together something about the gun breaking the silence I didnt like, bow was more effective and clean and didnt scare everything within a 1/2 mile!!!. I dont hunt anymore, but it was mostly Elk, sometimes deer. We would go for a week in Montana and camp out. I like bows, we still go target shooting once in awhile.
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I grew up in Wyoming, so we hunted both deer, antelope, and elk. Good eating, (well, except sometimes for those tough ol' bulls and bucks. Had moose jerky, once, when I was a kid. My mom tried to feed hers to the dogs. Even they wouldn't touch it!  ). Down here, in Florida, of course, it's deer. Little things, though. Nothing like those WY deer! 
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12-08-2006, 08:34 AM
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I love Wyoming, we used to go to Jackson Hole whenever i visited my granparent for the summer!! Never had moose, but yea we would make jerky and that was always good, or sausage which was good, but I have had a few bad steaks from some deer. Yea the deer in NC were teeny tiny!!! My dad said there wasnt enough to eat on them so why bother. i did have issues there with black bear hunting, sorry that just doesnt set well with me.
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12-08-2006, 09:09 AM
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Had a Glock once, a .40 caliber. Good gun, but I found that I prefer a revolver. Easier to use, easier to clean. Have to contend with you on the 9mm, though.  Most cops don't seem to even care for them, although they seem to be standard issue. I've even heard horror stories of the cops having a devil of a time stopping someone, who is hopped up on drugs, like PCP. In the case of having to protect myself, I'll take a .357 mag, thank you.
As to shotguns, I'd have to ask my husband about that Remington 870. He's my gun expert. I do know that I like my Baretta 20 gauge! It's a hoot, when I'm shooting those clay birds! 
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I agree about the Glock. It's the standard in our department so thats what we carry. I don't like the reduced trigger pull after the first round and I'm even less of a fan with having to pull the trigger to break down the gun. If theres a round chambered it will go off. To me it's a bad design. I much prefer the Sig-Sauer or Beretta. I also agree with you about the revolver. My first gun was a S&W model 10 .38 calibre. It was a great gun to shoot and extremely accurate. Our original ammo. (back when I started in 76) was 128 grain round nose bullets. A good leather jacket would stop that round. We finally switched to .158 grain niclad hollow point +P ammo and it had decent stopping power. Back then I figured if I couldn't get you with 18 rounds (total ammo we were allowed to carry) and the 5 shots in my backup gun I was in deep trouble and it was time to run. As far as the remmy 870 it's been the backbone in law enforcement for some years now. Liked I said to MoMark, when you rack a shotgun you get instant attention. The sound is very distinctive and every bad guy knows it. It's very similar to running your handcuffs through the ratchet a few times. Anybody who's had them on a couple of times knows that sound.
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12-08-2006, 09:19 AM
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I do not believe that an armed citizenry is a right. I believe that it's an obligation! But, I also believe that registration is the 1st step in confiscation. I own no registered fire arms & I never will! I also loved the movie Red Dawn, my son saw it w/ me & pointed out one of the characters as me. We talked about it & he said he knew that if anything like that happened, he'd get to raise his sister, because I'd be out fighting. I also believe that there should be a 2 teired citizen structure w/ service being required for 1st class citizenship. Military, Peace Corps, whatever.
I believe that everyone should take self defense classes. & know the safe & proper methods of handing a fire arm. (Sorry, I can't call a personal fire arm a gun, I was in the military.) Being female, I have a big... protective dog. Anyone gets thru her, I've had time to ready my fire arm & I am truely in fear of my life.
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12-08-2006, 04:20 PM
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I do not believe that an armed citizenry is a right. I believe that it's an obligation! But, I also believe that registration is the 1st step in confiscation. I own no registered fire arms & I never will! I also loved the movie Red Dawn, my son saw it w/ me & pointed out one of the characters as me. We talked about it & he said he knew that if anything like that happened, he'd get to raise his sister, because I'd be out fighting. I also believe that there should be a 2 teired citizen structure w/ service being required for 1st class citizenship. Military, Peace Corps, whatever.
I believe that everyone should take self defense classes. & know the safe & proper methods of handing a fire arm. (Sorry, I can't call a personal fire arm a gun, I was in the military.) Being female, I have a big... protective dog. Anyone gets thru her, I've had time to ready my fire arm & I am truely in fear of my life.
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Um you didn't know anytime you buy a firearm from a FFL they have to send a copy to the FBI and they must keep it on record for 5 to 10 years.
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12-08-2006, 05:53 PM
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My reply to this question, "from my cold dead hands!" 
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12-09-2006, 07:40 AM
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Veritas Aequitas
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Um you didn't know anytime you buy a firearm from a FFL they have to send a copy to the FBI and they must keep it on record for 5 to 10 years.
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That is correct, IF one buys from a gun dealer. However, transactions between private parties happen all the time, without the paper trail. And, I'm not talking about criminals on the streets.  I am refering to regular ordinary folks who simply sell/transfer guns to co-workers, family members, friends, etc. They are not criminals, no one is planning on a rampage or to rob a bank...someone wants grandpa's hunting rifle, someone wants home protection, someone collects guns, the list is endless. So, yes, a person can own unregistered firearms.
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