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Originally Posted by alexander59
I hate them, and would ban them altogether but I know that taking them away would not solve the problem any more than saying our illegals have to go home. Its not going to happen so I concede this unless we could get rid of them completely, that's a pipe dream. So as long as criminal have guns everybody should have the right to own them. I hate saying that. I have lost friends and one friend accidentally shot another friend, my uncle was killed in a hunting accident by a bozo that thought he was a deer.
I do not understand the second amendment, that says a well armed militia, does that mean the people? I thought a militia was the national guard.
I do believe people should take a test before they are allowed to buy them and get a licence same as a drivers licence, I know bad guys won't get a licence but at the same time the good guys will know how to use the gun.
Children should be well informed and educated before a gun is brought in the house and the gun should be hidden from the child.
I truly believe a good dog and a alarm system is far better protection.
I have argued about guns for so long and seems that so many people that have them are a little touched.
For those of you that feel the need the constitution protects you and as I have said before I may not like everything the constitution protects but I will fight for it.
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to answer a few things on a few posts,
once the militia(national guard) was considered citizens who often brought their own private arms when called upon.This changed with the militia act of 1903 when national guard troops effectively became Federal troops,hence why guard units have been sent overseas to war most recently Iraq.
I applaude you for saying while you don't agree with the right,you understand the need for it sorta speak.Unfortunately some feel morally superior feeling it is uncivilized funny enough many times those who are politicians and celebrities who live in gated communities and or have aemed bodyguards protecting them.
licenses...once you do that it becomes a privilage not a right.And it sets in motion who,what and where can have.And licenses with cost in fees,raise the fees....a round about way of banning them.
Agreed a dog and or alarm is a good idea,but its a deterent that can be overcome.A criminal who is motivated can overcome those security measures while a personal weapon will stop them.Depending on your household,for instance me I am single with my girlfriend sometimes staying if I know someone is the house I know its a criminal,I would in the dark hold off in the bedroom,call the cops and if the criminal enters my bedroom then...though Im not saying its not someones right to confront them though.
for my original post to give a example....hurricane Katrina.Unfortunately there were police and national guard who went house to house without warrents and with guns drawn disarmed the people leaving in a time of true crisis disarmed against hoodlems out looting and robbing.And too many of the army and police did it because "they were just following orders".People are still trying to get back their firearms that have been "misplaced" by the officials.
Unloaded weapons are useless,might as well keep a baseball bat instead.True that proper storage should be used depending like a steel safe,but proper handling of a loaded weapon will not fall into the wrong hands....
no,those that are pro gun do not see someone who is not as defective,actually propaganda wise anti gun movements tend to paint that picture toward the pro crowd...they have effectively propaganded the NRA as "perpetuators of violence" "backwoods rednecks" and "uncaring" while the NRA and similar clubs have always promoted safety and the right to own.
To answer the question "why the fascination?"Its not a fascination with violence,though a understanding of the possibility of violence.
But there is also the fact that shooting is a action sport.Someone who knows nothing about golf might think its just about hitting a ball with a club while actually its about a melding of the person and club,concentration,practice....same with shooting.
It takes alot of practice with control of trigger,breathing,eyes properly using sights.There are many things about it.Some like doing long distance,400 yds to 1000yds hitting oil drum sized targets.Different positions,using a timer.Its challenging that makes it fun.Some enjoy handloading which with their load may make a inch grouping at a 100yds while a factory load would only do a 3 inch group...and different firerams delivering that depending.
Some like doing cowboy action shooting,sometimes its just fun to plink and its a great way to relieve stress.Personally I like military surplus among others,the history in them,did it defend or attack Normandy?...or Iwo Jima...could it one time been in my fathers hands?Was itused in the trenches of WW1?
So hope that answers a little.