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Old 01-12-2007, 10:17 AM
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From HappyandMarried:
But it is very funny that everyone against gun ownership will seek a gun owner when they need protection. They seem to be against gun ownership until the stuff hits the fan and their life is in danger, then they convert rather quickly.

Kind of like the old saying "there are no atheists in foxholes".

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Old 01-12-2007, 10:06 PM
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Please be sure to keep the ammunition for your rifles somewhere other than the gun case. If someone breaks in your home all they have to do is smash the glass door to the case, grab a rifle, find the ammo in the drawer, load it, and they now have a deadly weapon.

Always keep the ammunition in a different location, away from the weapons.

You don't want to arm an intruder!
This is the craziest thing I ever heard. Keep ammo in the weapons in various locations around the house. Where you have access to them. In case of a home invasion you wont have time to react. I think every law abiding citizen in the U.S. should carry a weapon. An armed society is a safer society. Everywhere they have passed carry permits the crime rate goes down. Because the criminals don't know who has a gun. Also here in Tennessee we are all in favor of gun control.

GUN CONTROL= being able to hit what you aim at.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:05 PM
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I hate them, and would ban them altogether but I know that taking them away would not solve the problem any more than saying our illegals have to go home. Its not going to happen so I concede this unless we could get rid of them completely, that's a pipe dream. So as long as criminal have guns everybody should have the right to own them. I hate saying that. I have lost friends and one friend accidentally shot another friend, my uncle was killed in a hunting accident by a bozo that thought he was a deer.
I do not understand the second amendment, that says a well armed militia, does that mean the people? I thought a militia was the national guard.
I do believe people should take a test before they are allowed to buy them and get a licence same as a drivers licence, I know bad guys won't get a licence but at the same time the good guys will know how to use the gun.
Children should be well informed and educated before a gun is brought in the house and the gun should be hidden from the child.
I truly believe a good dog and a alarm system is far better protection.
I have argued about guns for so long and seems that so many people that have them are a little touched.
For those of you that feel the need the constitution protects you and as I have said before I may not like everything the constitution protects but I will fight for it.
to answer a few things on a few posts,
once the militia(national guard) was considered citizens who often brought their own private arms when called upon.This changed with the militia act of 1903 when national guard troops effectively became Federal troops,hence why guard units have been sent overseas to war most recently Iraq.

I applaude you for saying while you don't agree with the right,you understand the need for it sorta speak.Unfortunately some feel morally superior feeling it is uncivilized funny enough many times those who are politicians and celebrities who live in gated communities and or have aemed bodyguards protecting them.

licenses...once you do that it becomes a privilage not a right.And it sets in motion who,what and where can have.And licenses with cost in fees,raise the fees....a round about way of banning them.

Agreed a dog and or alarm is a good idea,but its a deterent that can be overcome.A criminal who is motivated can overcome those security measures while a personal weapon will stop them.Depending on your household,for instance me I am single with my girlfriend sometimes staying if I know someone is the house I know its a criminal,I would in the dark hold off in the bedroom,call the cops and if the criminal enters my bedroom then...though Im not saying its not someones right to confront them though.

for my original post to give a example....hurricane Katrina.Unfortunately there were police and national guard who went house to house without warrents and with guns drawn disarmed the people leaving in a time of true crisis disarmed against hoodlems out looting and robbing.And too many of the army and police did it because "they were just following orders".People are still trying to get back their firearms that have been "misplaced" by the officials.

Unloaded weapons are useless,might as well keep a baseball bat instead.True that proper storage should be used depending like a steel safe,but proper handling of a loaded weapon will not fall into the wrong hands....

no,those that are pro gun do not see someone who is not as defective,actually propaganda wise anti gun movements tend to paint that picture toward the pro crowd...they have effectively propaganded the NRA as "perpetuators of violence" "backwoods rednecks" and "uncaring" while the NRA and similar clubs have always promoted safety and the right to own.

To answer the question "why the fascination?"Its not a fascination with violence,though a understanding of the possibility of violence.

But there is also the fact that shooting is a action sport.Someone who knows nothing about golf might think its just about hitting a ball with a club while actually its about a melding of the person and club,concentration,practice....same with shooting.

It takes alot of practice with control of trigger,breathing,eyes properly using sights.There are many things about it.Some like doing long distance,400 yds to 1000yds hitting oil drum sized targets.Different positions,using a timer.Its challenging that makes it fun.Some enjoy handloading which with their load may make a inch grouping at a 100yds while a factory load would only do a 3 inch group...and different firerams delivering that depending.

Some like doing cowboy action shooting,sometimes its just fun to plink and its a great way to relieve stress.Personally I like military surplus among others,the history in them,did it defend or attack Normandy?...or Iwo Jima...could it one time been in my fathers hands?Was itused in the trenches of WW1?

So hope that answers a little.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:12 AM
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We have own guns. They are locked up in our safe in the bedroom with trigger locks. We hunt both my boys 18 & 13 are excellent shooters. Took hunter safety classes and we have bought them there own rifles, those rifles are locked up in the safe. My children have never tried to touch the fire arms without my husband. My daughter 9 can't wait till she can take hunter safety and get her first deer. Education has to be the #1 thing with children and firearms in the house.

As a note all my children have loved to play with toy guns, and we have lots and lots of toy guns in every shape and size. Kids love to play make believe and should be allowed to.
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This is the craziest thing I ever heard. Keep ammo in the weapons in various locations around the house. Where you have access to them. In case of a home invasion you wont have time to react. I think every law abiding citizen in the U.S. should carry a weapon. An armed society is a safer society. Everywhere they have passed carry permits the crime rate goes down. Because the criminals don't know who has a gun. Also here in Tennessee we are all in favor of gun control.

GUN CONTROL= being able to hit what you aim at.
So.... if someone breaks into your house, all they have to do is go over to the gun case, smash the glass, pull out a weapon, and shoot you as you come home? Yea, there's a plan.

If you are worried about a home invasion you are living in the wrong part of town. I was speaking to someone who said they have a gun cabinet full of guns, no someone worried about home invasion. And yes, if you have a gun cabinet full of gun (like I do) you need to keep the ammo somewhere other than with the guns.

I said nothing about the loaded 9mm Beretta under my bead, did I?
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If you are someone who is afraid of home invasions you may want to invest in this 'picture frame'. I have one at my front door - with a loaded 9mm inside!

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=148194
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I agree happy&Married, guns and amo not in same place.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:53 PM
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If you are someone who is afraid of home invasions you may want to invest in this 'picture frame'. I have one at my front door - with a loaded 9mm inside!

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=148194
I've already posted my reply - don't like 'em but I like that idea. Especially for a house with children in it, as long as they don't know it is anything but a picture frame.
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